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Jury Duty How Would You Vote?
Just got home from jury Duty and a 23 year old was charged with 2 counts of intoxication vehicular homicide. The defense questioned the would be jurors if they could consider giving probation to their client. Texas has guidelines from 2-20 years, If less than 10 years is handed down probation is a possibility. I was not selected and was banished from the court. So what could you give this kid if you found him guilty.
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Gary H 1978 911 SC
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we were told no felonies.
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if he were to get probation he should have to take antabuse for the entire duration, or else go directly to jail.
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"innocent until proven guilty" The only way to really know how I'd vote would be to sit in the jury box.
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I believe in severely harsh penalties for these sorts of crime where some people died because of a very poor decision on the part of the defendant, I don't believe I would go for probation IF he was found guilty.
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If he was found guilty... no probation. It should be 2nd degree murder IMO! Probation just tells the next guy that it's not a big deal to drink/drive and kill someone. Just another thing wrong with this country.
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Probation for two counts of veh. homicide due to DUI? Kidding me? This guy should be too old to drive by the time he gets out of prison. I hope he's sued for millions and spends whatever freedom he has left using a walker to get back and forth to work to earn his restitution money.
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Tell me more about how and why you were "banished"?
I have an interesting story to tell myself later on about jury duty. On your question about probation - I've been told that I do not understand how the criminal justice system works so I guess my opinion may not be worth very much. But I question probation and early release programs - we are too lenient these days. ![]()
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I was not "banished" I was dismissed. My brother is a attorney and both sides asked me about my brother so I knew I had no chance of serving.
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The OP wasn't asking if you would find him guilty or not. He is asking if you would allow probation. You don't need to sit on a jury to make that decision. That's why the defense was asking before-hand.
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If that's the case, he has poor defense attorneys...also, the way the OP read to me, he was deemed guilty. Hmmmm
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Actually a pretty good defense attorney. Why not select those most likely to allow probation? It's jury selection, not a trial.
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OK well that's a whole different can of soup. Thanks for the clarification.
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That, I'll concede. The O.P. was made with the assumption of a guilty verdict.
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Guilty! Guilty of crappy sentence stucture and punctuation.
Mwuahahahahahahaha
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I'm not a fan of drinking and driving. If he is found guilty, I would lean towards the max of the sentencing guidelines. JMO
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Yes this was VENIRE or jury selection. All the talk from both teams of lawyers was about assumption of a guilty verdict. I checked the on line court records and he has 2 docket #s.
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voir dire, not venire
no, if guilty, he goes directly to jail, he does not pass go, he does not collect $200 priors involving alcohol or drugs would make me lean towards the harsher end of the sentence continuum
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