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wdfifteen 02-27-2013 09:13 AM

Need help from the brain trust - sailboats
 
There is a device used on sailboats and other applications that I need to describe but I can't find the name of. It is a drum, rotated by an engine. A rope is connected at one end to a crane or boom and the user wraps the other end of the rope around the drum for a few turns. When lifting a sail or cargo the user pulls on the rope, which tightens it against the drum, causing it to wind around the drum, lifting the weight by motor power. To lower the weight or control the speed of the rope the user relaxes the tension on the rope, allowing it to slip on the drum.
It differs from a windlass in that the drum always turns in the same direction and the end of the rope is not attached to the drum. What is this thing called?

NYPorsche 02-27-2013 09:28 AM

I believe you are referring to a capstan:

Capstan (nautical) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

VINMAN 02-27-2013 10:00 AM

A windlass is electric or hydraulic powered powered and turns in both directions. Its also always horizontal. Most capstans on sailboats are hand cranked although there are some powered ones. Capstans are vertical.

nota 02-27-2013 10:54 AM

winch but there are lots of kinds/types

there was a show on old Chinese junks last weekend
that used a double drum [different sized] and counter weight

what you described is a common sailboat mast winch
they are mostly hand powered but can be motor driven on bigger boats
ether electric or hyd powered
some later square rigged ships used donkey motors [steam or later IC] to raise sails and booms

jmaxwell 02-27-2013 11:01 AM

The same arrangement has been used in the oil fields as well, even to the extent of attaching one to the rear wheels of a truck for hoist assistance. A Capstan, for sure

URY914 02-27-2013 11:02 AM

There is a term that we used to be use when I was working on marine equipment 30 years ago. The PC police won't like it being used now. ;)

nota 02-27-2013 11:05 AM

most windlass are used on anchors and have a chain sprocket
some have a drum used on the other side of the chain side
they can be powered by hand or electric or hyd power
but most freewheel going down as you can't get the chain to slip

wdfifteen 02-27-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 7299261)
There is a term that we used to be use when I was working on marine equipment 30 years ago. The PC police won't like it being used now. ;)

You know exactly what I'm talking about then. I'm trying to find the PC term for it.

wdfifteen 02-27-2013 11:16 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361992394.jpg

This is part of a photo from a 1909 brochure that I am going to use in a magazine article. The uh, 'item' is a drum directly connected to the engine crankshaft.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361992506.jpg

This is part of the original caption describing the item. I obviously can't use it word for word.

NYPorsche 02-27-2013 11:33 AM

When doing subsurface sampling - the drill rig is equipped with a friction cathead - seems similar to what you are trying to describe...

Oil and Gas Well Drilling and Servicing eTool: Illustrated Glossary - Cathead

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/oila...es/cathead.jpg

wdfifteen 02-27-2013 11:53 AM

Cathead it is. Thank you very much.

zotman72 02-27-2013 11:58 AM

FWIW, there are no ropes on a sailboat, they are called lines. YMMV

crustychief 02-27-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zotman72 (Post 7299389)
FWIW, there are no ropes on a sailboat, they are called lines. YMMV

Unless they ( lines) are made of metal.

James Brown 02-27-2013 05:30 PM

like chow lines

pharlap71 02-27-2013 05:43 PM

or sheets

URY914 02-27-2013 06:08 PM

The word I was referring to is in the picture above.


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