Pelican Parts Forums - 991 Targa Caught Testing...spy shots

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)

- Off Topic Discussions (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/)

- - 991 Targa Caught Testing...spy shots (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/739059-991-targa-caught-testing-spy-shots.html)

Count me in in the 'like' column....

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 7331915)

The second this new targa rolls off the showroom floor, our air cooled targas will increase in resale.

Wooooo Hoooooo! YES! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/gitaar.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 7330429)

And who is to say at this point that with a push of a button the top does not raise a couple of inches, rotates to an incline angle, and retracts into the back seat area.

It look like this does have some kind of retraction. See these shutlines? They look the same as the cabriolet.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387229805.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387229826.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387229839.jpg

Cool, and it got me thinking - so I did a search on the competition.

2014 Corvette Stingray Targa - Photo #1 from "2014 Corvette Stingray Rendered as Targa"
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...ga-54705_1.jpg

Quote:

"Chevrolet is expected to give us the Convertible incarnation of the 2014 Corvette Stingray at the Geneva Motor Show in March

deviantART: More Like Corvette Stingray C7 Targa by ~YogaBudiwCUSTOM
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/200H...om-d5sb6ab.jpg

IMHO the 991 Targa would only be cool if both the center section and the rear window section could be removed. Maybe the rear window can duck into the retracted decklid? Would be the closest thing to a retractable hardtop, esp if the center section can fold in half and be stowed in the frunk.

If it has a removable rear window, then what is the point? Its a convertible with a wonky looking rollbar?

The more I look at the Porsche top, the more it looks like the Lotus solution.

Lotus Elise S2 soft top roof removal [HD]
Lotus Elise S2 soft top roof removal [HD] - YouTube
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/c09Gh07KRws" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

maybe it will drive down prices on the 997 Targa?

I need a 4th car...

Video: 2014 Porsche 911 Targa prototype spotted (991) - PerformanceDrive
http://cdn.performancedrive.com.au/w...e-B-pillar.jpg
http://cdn.performancedrive.com.au/w...pe-630x440.jpg

New Porsche 911 Targa Has A Super Trick Automatic Roof
New Porsche 911 Targa Has A Super Trick Automatic Roof
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/191g.../ku-xlarge.jpg

Quote:

In a leaked dealer presentation, a slide seems to feature the new 911 Targa showing off its fully open central panel, which looks like something you'd lift out and place in the trunk. But then one line sticks out:

Fully automatic roof system to satisfy customer demands for comfort.

Willtell, where did you get the bottom image of yours, the A-B function diagram?

I vote very cool, especially as a power targa. Modern buyers of a $100k+ car aren't going to want to manually release levers, climb out, lift off a roof panel, and store it somewhere.

I love it. I think the last few targa designs were awkward and a little ugly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 7809617)

Willtell, where did you get the bottom image of yours, the A-B function diagram?

I think it was on Rennlist someplace. I'll see if I can find the source.

Count me as a like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willtel (Post 7809674)

I think it was on Rennlist someplace. I'll see if I can find the source.

Got it, found it.

http://forums.rennlist.com/

Quote:

Go Back Rennlist Discussion Forums > Water Cooled Technical Discussion Areas > 991
Reload this Page 991 TARGA/ TARGA S UPDATE

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISUK (Post 10793028)

I posted this on Rennteam over a year ago now and I think it was copied here on another thread in the 991 section about the targa earlier this year.

"The 'targa' panel section is already on the cabrio. Underneath the fabric cover is a hard composite roof panel. From the drawings it appears that the top of the roof bar telescopes upwards to let the targa panel slide beneath it then retract rearwards to stow under the clam behind the rear seats as it does on the cabrio. The roof bar will then presumably close back down leaving the original roll hoop look. The parts of the roll bar that appear to remain attached to the rear glass are likely just the decorative side panels that hide the hydraulic mechanism, that allows the top of the bar to lift up and down, when the roof cycle of opening or closing is completed.

It should be quite a cost effective system to engineer as it appears to use the same Z frame roof scissor frame section and same rear clam opening mechanism as the cabrio. Presumably the rear glass window will have to be made from fairly lightweight material (polycarbonate perhaps?). The lifting targa roof bar is the new and more complex part of the design.

I've done a quick sketch to show this movement."

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...Mechanism4.jpg

SuzyF found this patent application recently which partially supports my original view on how the roof will work. It looks like the targa bar does not need to raise as the roof mechanism lifting apparatus only needs the corner sections of the bar to open outwards. The targa panel then lifts up and over the bar and the corner panels then close back down.

https://www.google.com/patents/US8459719?dq=US+8459719+B2&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=1Ef2UaT0J YeFOO7BgfAP&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA

Link from the above with Patent images:
https://www.google.com/patents/US8459719?dq=US+8459719+B2&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=1Ef2UaT0J YeFOO7BgfAP&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA

http://forums.rennlist.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzy991 (Post 10975135)

Here are some additional renders, these are leaks from the official patent-renderings (at keast that is what the source claims)

http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5966bec5.jpg
http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/...psff0f1cce.jpg

Suzy (via iOS app)

I don't particularly care for the car as presented in the original post (the disguised test mule car), but the other pictures of the Targa, I like a lot...

Looking at the cool retract mechanism, now I REALLY like it :).

Has anyone figured out why they would go for a cloth look on a top which would work just as well with a hard-shell material?

I mean they are not folding it, right?

A carbon fiber top would look trick is all I'm saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 7809474)

What's written in the quarter window? F downsizing?