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M.D. Holloway 04-06-2013 08:10 PM

Why Texas is Right...
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/business/big-hot-cheap-and-right-a-new-look-at-texas-review.html?partner=yahoofinance&_r=0

“The Texas model isn’t an accident, in other words, even if the state Constitution does call for a very stark version of it,”

“Texas has a long tradition of looking outside the government for support — and often finding it. That predates the Texas revolution and was reinforced by the rise of the cattle kingdom and the oil booms.”

legion 04-06-2013 08:19 PM

Texas is on my short list of places to flee to.

Hard-Deck 04-07-2013 02:27 AM

Yup. I love Texas.

mreid 04-07-2013 04:43 AM

Just moved here. Should have come a long time ago.

mattdavis11 04-07-2013 05:57 AM

I'll never leave.

jtfreels 04-07-2013 06:22 AM

Just moved to Texas myself

onewhippedpuppy 04-07-2013 06:33 AM

If I could pry my wife away from my damn in-laws I'd be in the DFW area tomorrow. I love Texas, and hope to move there before they secede.:)

Laneco 04-07-2013 06:51 AM

I travel quite a bit for business across the US. I was in DFW a few months ago on business. With all the construction, operational business (instead of shuttered doors), and general energy it felt like being in a foreign country. Like "Recession? What recession?"...

Really like the area east of DFW - out toward Nacadoches, etc. Quite lovely. Put us down as 'would flee to Texas.'

angela

patssle 04-07-2013 06:51 AM

Texas has a lot of good things going for it. But some bad things too. A vast majority of the jobs created in the past 5 years were low wage with no benefits. And you pay for what you get - since taxes are low our education and healthcare coverage are poorly ranked.

We're not perfect - calling it a miracle is really if you only care about business and screw everything else. But we got a lot of good going for us. Except for the summers - it's damn hot.

Tobra 04-07-2013 06:54 AM

It is not so much Texas as it is Texans, good people. It can be hard country, what with the various deadly snakes, spiders that can bite you and make your foot rot off, drought, hundred year floods every ten years, hurricanes, tornadoes, hail that could kill you if it hit you in the head. There are several colors worse than red on those doppler weather maps it turns out. Ice storms in the winter, implausible heat in the summer. I had always thought of 100% as the upper end of the scale. It is possible, through some combination of humidity, temperature amd Bermuda Triangle effect to have both the percent humidity and the degrees to be greater than 100. Fortunately, the high humidity keeps you from bursting into flames when the wind blows. Something about it keeps your head from going soft, unless of course you are on the meth, in which case you won't be around long anyway.

California is totally different. Mild weather, most of the bears and other dangerous bigger animals have been chased from the state, soft, easy country, except for the Mojave, which counts as Arizona, and the Mountains on the wrong weekend for weather.

silverc4s 04-07-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patssle (Post 7372995)
Texas has a lot of good things going for it. But some bad things too. A vast majority of the jobs created in the past 5 years were low wage with no benefits. And you pay for what you get - since taxes are low our education and healthcare coverage are poorly ranked.

We're not perfect - calling it a miracle is really if you only care about business and screw everything else. But we got a lot of good going for us. Except for the summers - it's damn hot.

Nice recitation of the left talking points. I think we have all heard these many times, even more as the West and the NE slide into a ruinous fiscal state.

FLYGEEZER 04-07-2013 07:23 AM

If God were to give the earth an enema, he'd stick the tube in Texas.

Cannonball996 04-07-2013 07:48 AM

Texas is a great place to own a business, but not a very good place to be someone else's employee.

sjf911 04-07-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYGEEZER (Post 7373028)
If God were to give the earth an enema, he'd stick the tube in Texas.

He already did that, its called Mississippi. Hook'em Horns!

speeder 04-07-2013 08:32 AM

What cracks me up is that there are (at least) two different kinds of Texans. When I meet them, they either tell me that,

A) It's a great place, except for Austin. Or,

B) That it's a destination to skip, except for Austin. :D

mattdavis11 04-07-2013 09:06 AM

Austin is unique. They have a tax me into oblivion philosophy that will one day ruin the city. They didn't build the F1 race track outside of the city for no good reason. Unfortunately, I think the city did annex the territory because it was not incorporated.

What is great, is that the nut jobs tend to centralize to the inner city and there is a vast area in out lying regions where normalcy exists.

We have room for expansion, and people tend to disperse from the city. No one really wants to live in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, or Austin. They want to live just beyond the political reach of the city.

Urban sprawl.

patssle 04-07-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 7373009)
Nice recitation of the left talking points. I think we have all heard these many times, even more as the West and the NE slide into a ruinous fiscal state.

I'm so happy for reinforcing your faux political paradigms. I didn't realize being pro-healthcare and pro-education is a "left talking point". But if it is, I guess that means you're anti-education and anti-healthcare. Congrats.

silverc4s 04-07-2013 09:44 AM

My work here is done...:cool:

RWebb 04-07-2013 11:18 AM

both my parents were born in Texas -- but they were smart enuff to leave

BE911SC 04-07-2013 11:24 AM

Time to PARF this beyatch.

RWebb 04-07-2013 12:22 PM

To See What Climate Change Feels Like, Go to Texas | Weather Underground

Zeke 04-07-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BE911SC (Post 7373362)
Time to PARF this beyatch.

So, did you report the thread or are you just complaining out loud? One goes with the other.

74-911 04-07-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7373457)

The epic drought of 2011 did a lot of damage. Millions of dead trees, lost crops, dead cattle, etc. etc. Parts of East TX got some reprieve in 2012 but most of the state, if not still in extreme drought conditions is heading that way and the long range forecast is more drought. One of the main drivers of the current economic boom is the Eagle Ford, Barnett and soon to be Cline Shale plays for oil/gas. Unfortunately all these areas are drought prone, currently in extreme drought and as fracking takes massive amounts of water which will come from where ??

The worst drought was the near 7 year drought in the 1950s when the population was probably 20% of what it is now. If this drought even approaches that one?

As the article says, the weather here can be brutal. I've lived here 67 years and seen tornadoes, dust storms that turned the sky red, hail the size of softballs, hurricane force winds, severe droughts, and huge flash floods.

The state passed a 50 year water plan I believe it was back the the 1990s which was designed to assure TX water supplies. Unfortunately, the legislature didn't seem to realize you actually have to fund these things (not to mention being bogged down with such emergency legislation over the years as voter ID, stopping planned parenthood funding, being sure only abstinence is taught in sex ed classes and all those other social problems we have. But fear not, they just passed to bill to start some funding of water projects, of course they will take years to implement. Hell, they may even do something about highway funding one of these days instead of just defaulting to toll roads.

This could turn into a real rant so stop I will....

RWebb 04-07-2013 06:02 PM

yes, this is said to be the worst drought in state history

BGCarrera32 04-07-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by snapper33 (Post 7372774)
yup. I love texas.

+1

manbridge 74 04-07-2013 06:15 PM

This thread is a load of azz. I was raised there only to see Dallas vote blue in the last election.

Here is a dose of reality: Texas will move left because the people moving there will bring their own failed policies from other states. The honest working people will fail to join in politically and will be ruled by their inferiors. You heard it here first.

mreid 04-07-2013 06:18 PM

Yes, my life in Texas sucks. The housing is horrible.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps1bdadb57.jpg

I live in the desert.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...psb77ceea7.jpg

And it's flat, arid, and boring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps34ee24e7.jpg

Please don't come here.

onewhippedpuppy 04-07-2013 06:20 PM

My wife's sister and her husband just bought a house in DFW, I was amazed how much you can get for your money there.

Nostril Cheese 04-07-2013 06:24 PM

I went to Texas once. They called me a "Yankee" That was odd.

RWebb 04-07-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manbridge 74 (Post 7374030)
The honest working people

Democrats

manbridge 74 04-07-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7374106)
Democrats

Lie of the day. Maybe the year.

Don Ro 04-07-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manbridge 74 (Post 7374030)
I was raised there only to see Dallas vote blue in the last election.

Here is a dose of reality: Texas will move left because the people moving there will bring their own failed policies from other states. The honest working people will fail to join in politically and will be ruled by their inferiors. You heard it here first.

It's the dismal tide, Brother. The worst of humanity is being nurtured...and it's happening all over.
Hug your kids & pets.

slow&rusty 04-08-2013 04:00 AM

I love your place mreid...gorgeous! Must be great to come home every evening and relax on the weekends.

red-beard 04-08-2013 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manbridge 74 (Post 7374030)
This thread is a load of azz. I was raised there only to see Dallas vote blue in the last election.

Here is a dose of reality: Texas will move left because the people moving there will bring their own failed policies from other states. The honest working people will fail to join in politically and will be ruled by their inferiors. You heard it here first.

Anyone considering moving to Texas, please leave your Liberal crap at the border. We do not want to turn into another Colorado. There is a reason for the success in Texas. It is up to YOU to get by.

Some complain about lower wages, but the cost of living is also very low. Between Houston and Katy, in good areas with good school districts, you can find 2000+ sq. foot houses for just over $100K. While we do not get the year round fresh veggies at the quality level of California, we do have very low food prices.

And if you want to live still cheaper? You can move out to the country and buy a few acres for under $10K/acre. Put up a doublewide until you can afford to build a house and you're in for $50K, including well and septic tank.

This is what happens when you are not taxed and regulated to death. Let's keep it that way.

M.D. Holloway 04-08-2013 06:04 AM

I got here as soon as I could...makes me a Damn Yankee!

I have slept in 49 states (never been to Alaska and IMO it isn't a state!) and if I had a choice of any of them to live in - and I pretty much do - I still would choose Tejas hands down.

Those that live in Cali do so for the weather and ...hmmm...can't see any other reason really...nice place to visit for a few days but pretty much every one I talk to there is always telling me their amazing life or their great plans and ideas and how awesome they are and how they are on to something big and that what they are doing now is a stepping stone. Amazing.

Don't they know I'm the one they are supposed to think is awesome and don't they know I'm the one they should be focused on! Geeezzzz ;-)

Cannonball996 04-08-2013 06:19 AM

Texas is right not because of politics, we have not always been a red state, the state has prospered with democrats in the office as well as republicans.

Rick Lee 04-08-2013 06:24 AM

When I lived in Dallas as a kid, there was a popular bumper sticker than read, "Love NY? Take I-30 East."

RWebb 04-08-2013 09:11 AM

Texas will be all Democratice pretty soon - enjoy it, beard!

Jim Richards 04-08-2013 09:13 AM

Sí. Esa es la verdad.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-08-2013 09:27 AM

With all it's oil and cattle money, I always wondered why Texas wasn't a better state. When I lived there the education system was terrible and I think it still ranks pretty low. I won the Bee County hIstory award (multi-school competition) not by getting the most answers correct but by finding two mistakes on the test. We moved to MA soon after.


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