The times , they are a changing .

[Baz]

What I take away from this is lack of enforcement of the law.

Whether or not you agree about the law....it's your job to enforce it.

If you don't like the law - change it.....but to pick and choose is pretty lame.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Baz

What I take away from this is lack of enforcement of the law.

Whether or not you agree about the law....it's your job to enforce it.

If you don't like the law - change it.....but to pick and choose is pretty lame.

Federal law enforcement of misdemeanors on federal land is a fuzzy area.

Case in point: We used to tune our racing karts in Laguna Niguel at what is now the Chet Holifield Federal Building. On weekends (this was in the 80's) there were no federal officers on the grounds. The OC Sheriff would sit on the public road and watch us. There were also parents teaching their kids to drive and another parking lot was taken over by model airplane enthusiasts Sat and Sun.

Later on the building became more active as an archives storage. But the point is, it is federal property and the sheriff had no jurisdiction over the parking lots, only the roads leading to the driveways.

Had the federal officers been present, I doubt they would have done anything but tell us to move out under some trespassing statute since this wasn't a park intended for visitors. If we drove the karts across the public streets, we would have been cited.

This would make for an interesting discussion on a law forum.

[Icemaster]

Originally Posted by dafischer

You're a little too young to be so sanctimonious, Sidney.

Since I'm significantly older than he is, I'll say it then:

Brazen, arrogant, and entitled... Sounds like most Parfers...

There now, does that make it more substantive?

[Icemaster]

Wonder what Mr. Videographer would have said had they been tipping a class of wine or a craft beer.

[RWebb]

Jefferson LOVED wine - beer should be drunk at the Sam Adams memorial

not sure but IIRC some of the Founders grew hemp - George baby, maybe?

ok, both GW and TJ!

https://www.google.com/search?q=founding+fathers+grew+hemp&aq=0&oq=Founders+grew+hemp&aqs=chrome.1.57j0.3919j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[dafischer]

Originally Posted by Icemaster

Since I'm significantly older than he is, I'll say it then:

Brazen, arrogant, and entitled... Sounds like most Parfers...

There now, does that make it more substantive?

No, not really.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

it's nice to see someone actually get involved, act.

[Gogar]

Too bad it's not something important.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

What's important is that it was to him.

[ForBell]

how would the details of the matter change if the dope heads were passing around a fifth of Old Crow? would the pot smokers on Pelican respond differently?

[Icemaster]

Being passionate about something I can respect. But when that passion translates into 'I'm going to video you harrass you, argue with you, demand to speak to a superviso and all around irritate you until you do what I feel is important regardless of how you feel or whatever your stated policy is', that's when the wheels fall off and credibility goes out the window.

Reminds me exactly of the kind of 'dialogue' in PARF.

I'm not saying the situation is right or wrong, I wasnt there.

[GG Allin]

I wonder if the videographer himself was stoned, holding that camera like a f***tard.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Icemaster

Wonder what Mr. Videographer would have said had they been tipping a class of wine or a craft beer.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by ForBell

how would the details of the matter change if the dope heads were passing around a fifth of Old Crow? would the pot smokers on Pelican respond differently?

Ah, the days of a drum circle and a gallon jug of Carlo Rossi.

[Schrup]

Stoners don't help their cause by smoking in public, I think most people find it even more offensive than cigarette smoke. Same goes for the lesbians putting on a show at the grocery store last night.

How about we make the police give back the pot they siezed?

[M.D. Holloway]

its only objectionable if they are ugly...

[gacook]

I'm with Lube on this one.