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JC930 03-05-2004 10:16 AM

I use my cell phone.

goliver 03-05-2004 10:51 AM

I just use the clock on my cell phone to tell the time as I always have that with me and I don't like to worry about a watch banging around on stuff or having to remove it to work on the 911.

Geoff

Superman 03-05-2004 11:07 AM

You guys who find quartz watches so disgusting.....do you secretly keep one around for something accurate to use as a standard for resetting your mechanical heirlooms? The quartz movement you hate is deadly accurate. And when are you ever in a situation where you cannot simply turn your head toward a clock to determine the time? Okay, okay, I understand your love of craftmanship, but golly.......

alf 03-05-2004 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
You guys who find quartz watches so disgusting.....do you secretly keep one around for something accurate to use as a standard for resetting your mechanical heirlooms?
No secret, got a couple quartz watches that keep better time than the mechanical ones. I think of quartz watches like i think of my Pathfinder and Lexus. More practical than the Porsche as transportation but do not stir my passion.

For me, mechanical watches do more than just tell time and Porsches do more than just moving me from A to B.

Visit the Brand Forums on Timezone.com there are passionate watch folks there like the passionate Porsche folks here...



alf

masraum 03-05-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

do you secretly keep one around for something accurate to use as a standard for resetting your mechanical heirlooms?
Well, I am not a hater of the quartz movement, just like I am not a hater of non-pcars, but to keep my watches set I have my pc sync it's clock from the time server on the internet with the lowest most consistent ping times. Yes, I made a list of national time servers and then pinged them repeatedly to see which were the closest/fastest and the most consisten and then picked the best. I figure my pc is pretty well on time.

Joeaksa 03-05-2004 05:02 PM

stone43,

Break out your Fathers watch and go around and get estimates on the cost of repairs. I have had my Rolex's overhauled around the world (depending on where the govt said home was) and the price varies a lot.

I use a independent place here in Phoenix now and have one of mine overhauled every year. Price is anywhere from $200 to $325 depending on if the crystal needs replacing or not.

Have never lost money on a Rolex and bought my first GMT master in 1976 at a normal store. Bought several more in the PX and a couple in Saudi at the gold souks. Saudi's feel that gold makes men impotent and I feel that I can help them with this. Got a gold Daytona for a very good price this way, well under the cost of a stainless model.

Wayne, its an investment, not just a watch. When my Father passed his Rolex President came to me and it will be passed along when I head West. They last forever if taken care of and if not taken care of still last forever, just need some maintenance.

Superman, there is a program you can download (email me for a copy) called Dimension-4 that communicates with the national bureau of standards over the internet and sets your computers clock every time you boot up. Nothing more accurate but we use the GPS on the airplane which is accurate to a RCH!

JoeA

alf 03-05-2004 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
stone43,

Have never lost money on a Rolex and bought my first GMT master in 1976 at a normal store.

My mom used to tell me, and she still does, do not buy expenses, buy assets, a Rolex is an asset a Timex is an expense. Took her advise, saved and bought my first Rolex when i was 24, sold it when i was 28 for what i paid 4 years prior. Used that money bought some old Omegas, sold them, bought others, sold them. Now i have more in watches then i do in the Porsche and it all started with the one Rolex i bought for $1600 9 years ago. She also said you do not need that Porsche it is a waste of money :(

adomakin 03-05-2004 10:55 PM

monacos rule. i wish i had one.

GeorgeK 03-06-2004 01:12 AM

I also have a watch fetish.

-1989 Omega Speedmaster 20th anniversary edition
-1997 Rolex Daytona ss/white
-1988 Patek Philippe Nautilus
-1987 Rolex GMT-Master 2
-2003 IWC GST alarm ( a beautiful automatic/mechanical alarm)
-one of the first 3000 of the recreation of The Monaco:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078567760.jpg

And when I am on the track, an original Heuer (pre-Tag) Microsplit. remember when I was a kid, looking at the pictures of the races at Hockenheim, and see these big guys in the stands with the timer hanging on their necks, walking past RSRs and 935s.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078567899.jpg

}{arlequin 03-06-2004 06:57 AM

i love this hobby as well. For now I can't afford too many so I'm trying to limit myself to the ones that deal with racing/automotive history. I'm also looking into the old Atlantics as well as some Russian Rakieta timepieces.

cegerer 03-06-2004 07:18 AM

Super, I would NEVER consider strapping a quartz watch on my wrist ..... sacrilege, I say ..... almost like driving a water-cooled, all-wheel drive, 4-door Porsche for christ's sake ...... ;)


PS: my mechanical watches keep excellent time - never had a problem???

}{arlequin 03-06-2004 07:54 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078592071.jpg

even though it's a reissue, the lines are so clean

cegerer 03-06-2004 09:10 AM

George, I've never seen that version - looks great! I like the brown strap too. I've got the version posted above by Dave. -- Curt

GeorgeK 03-06-2004 09:47 AM

Curt,
When Heuer re-introduced the Monao, they made quite a fuss about only making 3000 of them, for "connaisseurs"... Promise they broke immediately. The ones that came after (and are still available) are the ones like the ad above. The one on my wrist is #1609. Incidentally, I have both the brown and the black bands.

aseem 03-06-2004 10:24 AM

Beautiful watch George. Its sad to see Tag Heuer flood the marked with the volum reissues of the classic Heuers, now marked Tag Heuer. I really like this Targa Florio as well, and I stumbled upon one in a store here i Norway with only the Heuer markings. This photo has the Tag marking how ever.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078601093.jpg

masraum 03-07-2004 08:38 AM

Something I didn't know, IWC that did a bunch of Porsche Design watches is owned by VDO since the late 70's. I'm going to have to save up for a while for an IWC, they make some great watches.

aseem 03-07-2004 09:54 AM

masraum, I think VDO is out now:

"In 1991 IWC director Günter Blümlein founded the LMH Group with its headquarters in Schaffhausen. With a 100% stake in IWC, 60% in Jaeger-LeCoultre and 90% in the Saxony-based watchmaking company of Lange & Söhne, the Group employs some 1440 persons"

"With its 390 employees, the company manufactures these sought-after pieces. Since the year 2000 IWC has belonged to the watch division of Richemont SA."


Richemont SA has som serious brands in their portfolio

aseem 03-07-2004 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stone43
I truly believe that there is some sort of connection between old Porsches and watches and other mechanical things. Although I own a digital, my favorite camera is my old-ass mechanical, metal case Nikon FE-2. My best shots from all over the world have come from this ancient, heavy pig (sounds like I am describing my cab) and I would not give it up for anything.

Quality never goes out of style.

I couldn't agree more. Somehow you just have to appreciate the knowledge, determination and craftmanship that goes into producing these quality items (Porsches, mechanical watches etc) Just like our Porsches, quality watches will keep on ticking for years and decades provided they receive the proper care and maintenance. They are not items you take for granted, like so many other things in todays lifestyle.

Take a look at these pictures from Lange & Söhne Tourbillion, and tell me that this has nothing in common with a classic Porsche. The tourbillion mechanism itself (last picture) has 70 or more parts. Only a handfull of watchmakers (are able to) make watches with a tourbillion mechanism.

"The delicate tourbillon mechanism also serves the purpose of improving rate accuracy by offsetting the disruptive effect of gravity. The rotating cage is suspended by two pivots between two diamond endstones. It turns about its own axis once a minute and can be precisely balanced with tiny counterweights. The fascinating movement of the tourbillon cage can be observed not only through an aperture in the dial but also through the sapphire-crystal caseback. "
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078688420.jpg
The Datograph movement:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078688522.jpg
The Turbillion mechanism:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1078688641.jpg

TomTurtle 03-07-2004 02:45 PM

Nice thread! I've come to the conclusion that us Porsche lovers definitely have a preference for finely tooled machinery!

My collection started with my dad's Benrus and Omega, now I have a SS Rolex Daytona, SS Omega Broad Arrow, Revue Thommen Airspeed and Cricket and heaven forbid, a battery-powered Breitling Aerospace, and titanium Seiko. I definitely prefer the look of chronograph/chronometers.

Chopard has a nice line of racing watches with its "Mille Miglia" line:

http://www.chopard.com/worldwide/fl/1w_mmigliafl.htm

masraum 03-07-2004 07:01 PM

Quote:

Only a handfull of watchmakers (are able to) make watches with a tourbillion mechanism.
Bah! I make those out of match sticks and paper clips in my spare time, nothing to it.


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