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mikester 06-06-2013 10:24 PM

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Brando 06-06-2013 10:51 PM

I am on board with the rant. Most Support reps I've encountered don't care to go beyond the simplest tasks. "I've gotta close Facebook and look that up?! No way man!"

I am especially pained by the current generations coming out of college and meeting the work force. They feel entitled to top pay and minimal work with the best advancement opportunities. And they change employers on an average of 1.5 to 2 years.

I am passionate about helping my clients and spend most of my time during the week directly working with my team to make sure we provide a high-quality service. I have high expectations for them and hold them to the same standards as i expect someone to give me (if i were spending $28k a month).

So to the OP: I don't think it is solely a lack of care on the CSR's part, but their leadership as well - which speaks volumes about the type of people running that department and business.

Time to take your money to a more caring provider.

look 171 06-06-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billybek (Post 7485323)
I needed to replace a washer and drier quite a few years back and went into an appliance store in my coveralls and found what I was looking for and waited for a sales guy to get his ass off a chair and come over to help me out. There must of been 5 or 6 of them having a nice conversation amongst themselves.
Good thing I wasn't dying of thirst and waiting for one of them to bring me some water...
I started for the exit while asking in a very loud voice what in the %*#@ was wrong with them for not wanting to make a sale.
I noticed on the way to the truck that their manager was also on the floor yelling at them....

Bill,

Not to bust your balls here, but if you really wanted the washer and dryer, you could have walked up to them and ask for help. If I wanted something, and the guys are just aren't wiling to come to me, I go to them and ask to write it up. Unless you weren't ready to buy, that why you walked? I don't have that kind of time to burn.

aap1966 06-07-2013 01:39 AM

Walked into a real estate agent one day when looking for a place to buy. I wasn't fully suited up, but not exactly dressed from a skip either.
I said to the receptionist "I'd like to ask about one of your houses please".
She looked me up and down, and said "Rentals, I presume?"

petrolhead611 06-07-2013 02:49 AM

If you want really bad customer service, come to England. I shop in the US because the service is good and the prices are right. I hardly buy anything in England except what I need on a day to day basis.

oldE 06-07-2013 03:46 AM

I understand Billybek walking out. There have been times when I have basically forced staff to process a sale, and there have been times when I wanted to make a point and have taken my business elsewhere.

Regardless of your wage scale, you should be in a job because you want to be there. I often advise people looking for work, "You need three things in order to do well: Knowledge, skills and attitude. We can give you the knowledge and teach you the skills, but if you don't show up with the right attitude, we're wasting our time."

Unfortunately, we've all seen the bad attitude, from time to time.

Best
Les

Baz 06-07-2013 04:06 AM

Les has a good point.

Attitude is the key.

I find a wide variation in personality - which is akin to attitude - amongst sales associates - and CSR's.

When you have a sales background as well as are a consumer yourself, it's hard not to have reasonable expectations when your purchase. OTOH you also understand why the service is less than adequate.

Mostly it's attitude and personality.

billybek 06-07-2013 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7485399)
Bill,

Not to bust your balls here, but if you really wanted the washer and dryer, you could have walked up to them and ask for help. If I wanted something, and the guys are just aren't wiling to come to me, I go to them and ask to write it up. Unless you weren't ready to buy, that why you walked? I don't have that kind of time to burn.

I guess there are a few different types of salespeople.
Some places you walk in and are greeted and asked what you are looking for and some you walk in and the salesperson says I am So and So and if you have any questions I will be at my desk...
I was performing an overhaul on a 450 hp machine not far from the store and came in pretty grimy in my coveralls and really feel I was judged not to be worth their while. I wasn't greeted coming into the store and no effort went into finding out what I needed. The store was empty except for me and the salespeople.
From the look on their managers face, it probably wasn't the first time that someone had reacted the way I did!
I bought a washer drier pair from the next store I went into that same day after work. I gave that salesman a bit of a rough time too, but he dropped his price enough to make me buy them.
Your not busting my balls, I didn't explain the situation well enough.

GH85Carrera 06-07-2013 05:06 AM

A friend of mine was one of the many young vice presidents at a bank back in the late 70s. Some farmer came walking in and he reeked of pig poo. No one wanted help him. My friend took a deep breath and asked if he could help him. The farmer said he had a check to deposit and he needed to open an account. The farmer handed him the check and it was for 4 million. Suddenly the farmer smelled quite sweet.

The farmer had sold off part of his land and the pig farm. My friend had a lot of fun showing that check to all the other VPs that did not want to help the farmer.

Eric 951 06-07-2013 05:21 AM

I'm with Billy, and have done the same in the past (not at an appliance store). If the store was packed with customers and all the sales staff were busy that is one thing, but if they are all sitting around BSing and can't ake the time to do their JOB, then I can't take the time to give them my $$$

recycled sixtie 06-07-2013 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by aap1966 (Post 7485435)
Walked into a real estate agent one day when looking for a place to buy. I wasn't fully suited up, but not exactly dressed from a skip either.
I said to the receptionist "I'd like to ask about one of your houses please".
She looked me up and down, and said "Rentals, I presume?"

My daughter used to work for a large real estate company part time as a receptionist. She has just resigned after working there several years and needs more time to pursue her Phd.

She liked working there but sometimes the other girls would let the work pile up and she ended up doing it. Some of the work was putting the listings on the internet.
She is great with the computer. Either the other girls did not want to do it or were not trained. That is how poor service can start - lack of motivation or no training.
Yes she is polite and has a great attitude too....

mreid 06-07-2013 06:26 AM

Screen them, train them, assess them. 75% of my company are MSRs (member service reps). The average cost of losing a CSR/MSR is $35k all in. Ours are $75k due to the screening and training pipeline. Our turnover is the lowest in the industry and our customer satisfaction the highest. My assessment on those who aren't successful goes right back to their parents in most cases. Values, respect, and responsibility are fleeting attributes these days, but absolutely necessary to make it past our screening process. One of my colleagues is a VP who started on the phones 12 years ago. She is the measure of great values.

look 171 06-07-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric 951 (Post 7485666)
I'm with Billy, and have done the same in the past (not at an appliance store). If the store was packed with customers and all the sales staff were busy that is one thing, but if they are all sitting around BSing and can't ake the time to do their JOB, then I can't take the time to give them my $$$

Most people don't want to do anything but sit and BS. I like service as much as the next guy, but if I want something, a lazy salesman isn't going to stop me. I once walk into a Honda dealer in a pair of dirty shorts and tee shirt with my dirty pick up truck. No one came up to ask me if I needed help. All were standing outside BSing. I asked who wants to sell me a car? agree on the price and bought it. I really don't car who earns my money.

billybek 06-07-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7485860)
I really don't car who earns my money.

I guess that is where our opinion differs. They still need to earn the sale and not expect it to be handed to them.

There are lots of tire kickers out there, and when asked if I need help I will not waste someones time if I am really just looking.

GH85Carrera 06-07-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7485860)
Most people don't want to do anything but sit and BS. I like service as much as the next guy, but if I want something, a lazy salesman isn't going to stop me. I once walk into a Honda dealer in a pair of dirty shorts and tee shirt with my dirty pick up truck. No one came up to ask me if I needed help. All were standing outside BSing. I asked who wants to sell me a car? agree on the price and bought it. I really don't car who earns my money.

I was 19 when I was ready to order my 1974 914 2.0. I walked into the VW-Porsche-Audi dealership and was totally ignored. I finally picked out the oldest looking salesman and sat down at his desk and stared at him. He finally asked if he could help me. I told him I was there to order a Porsche. That got everyone's attention. Of course he wanted to sell me what was on the floor.

I knew way more about the the 914 that he did. I started with my list of what I want. It took them 6 months to get in my car.


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