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jyl 07-01-2013 01:45 PM

"A Fixed Blade Or Locking Blade Knife Is Required"
 
Son is turning 14 y/o and going to a week long outdoor camping, archery, woodcraft thingy with his buddies. The list of things he is required to bring includes: "fixed blade or locking blade knife".

So my first reaction was to call the camp and pull him out, demand a refund, complain that my baby boy and other children will be placed in harm's way, around knives that could cut them.

But, a quick feel of my crotch reminded me that I am a man after all, and that boys are supposed to play with knives and sticks in the woods.

That said, I am ashamed to admit that we have no "fixed blade or locking blade knife" in the house, with the exception of cooking cutlery (too dorky) and my switchblade (too illegal). So, I have the happy chore of going to the knife store and buying him a "fixed blade or locking blade knife".

What do you recommend? There is, as you know, a profusion of different knives out there. Should I come back with a WW2 German bayonet, a Kabar with spare .45 round in the handle, a Cold Steel Tanto? Or a Swiss Army lockback knife, Opinel fruit cutter, a basic Gerber paraframe?

Let me have your suggestions, please. $50 limit. Suitable for smallish hands.

masraum 07-01-2013 01:48 PM

Benchmade makes great knives, and they have an inexpensive line that uses less expensive material for the handles

porsche4life 07-01-2013 01:52 PM

He will probably lose it... So.... Go to Walmart and pick up one of the gerbers with a locking blade for ~$30 and call it good. They are still decent knives and will work for whatever they are doing at camp.

Halm 07-01-2013 01:57 PM

I am a big Benchmade fan too. Find a knife on their website you think would work and then check a price for it on eBay. You can usually save a few dollars that way.

Flat Six 07-01-2013 02:08 PM

Hands down the most useful knives I own (I have six of these, at last count):

Amazon.com: Columbia River Knife and Tool M16-10KZ 3-Inch Black Folding Knife: Home Improvement

About every other week they go on sale at Big 5 for $19.99 . . .

BlueSkyJaunte 07-01-2013 02:32 PM

Bushcraft calls for a bushcraft knife! Get him a Mora or a Condor bushcraft blade.

Amazon.com: Mora Bushcraft Triflex Carbon Steel Knife: Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com: Condor Tool and Knife Bushcraft Basic 4-Inch Black Blade, Walnut Handle, Leather Sheath: Sports & Outdoors

Once he stops losing them, get him a nice custom bushcraft knife.

gr8fl4porsche 07-01-2013 02:32 PM

This is what I carry these days.

Buck 730.

Comes from the factory extremely sharp!

Has a small LED light built in that he would love.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1372714276.jpg

Cajundaddy 07-01-2013 02:36 PM

I presume it will be for woodcarving, rope cutting, slicing kindling, cleaning fish etc. I have always carried a pocket knife and use one nearly every day. They vary from a Schrade "Old Timer" fishing knife, Gerber folding, and Swiss Army. All are excellent quality knives and I find the Swiss most useful in the real world. All three are worth a look.
Amazon.com: Schrade 3 7/8" Gunstock Trapper Single Lockblade: Home Improvement

Gerber 06069 Folding Gator Knife - Clip Point, Fine - Box - Amazon.com

Amazon.com: Victorinox Swiss Army Adventurer Pocket Knife (Red): Sports & Outdoors



No Porsche event would be complete without a good beer bottle opener and corkscrew.:D

rusnak 07-01-2013 02:39 PM

When I was 9 I got my first real pocket knife. It was a Cub Scouts official knife. I did not cut myself with it, but it was one of my fondest memories. A locking knife is way safer than a non-locking one like a Swiss Army knife.

I agree with getting him an El Cheapo knife. He'll use it for everything from undoing wood screws, to trying to pick his sister's diary lock, to hanging G.I. Joe's enemies from it.

You can get any number of knives at Walmart. My recommendation is to get a semi-grownup looking one with two blades and some sort of screwdriver and that's it.

masraum 07-01-2013 02:47 PM

It's true, at 9yo, just any lock blade that's not too large and not too small for low cost is probably plenty of knife.

I like liner locks, but I would probably avoid them for a youngster. Benchmade makes an "Axis" lock which is very nice, but for someone young, a lock back which pretty much requires two hands to operate is probably better. The only thing that I would worry about with a lockback is that he would need to be strong enough to operate without having to try too hard. If he has too hard a time and is straining because it's so difficult, that seems like a recipe for disaster when closing the knife.

vash 07-01-2013 02:53 PM

wow..this just warms my heart.

now turn in your man-card for not having a drawer full of old and useful knives. :)

having said that, i have a couple of older Gerbers i'd love to give your kid. too small for me.

edit: let me get them into my hands before i offer them up. my wife has strange donations habits..she gives away my stuff.

vash 07-01-2013 02:59 PM

found them.

choose one or the other..heck even both. they are damn sharp..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1372715987.jpg

vash 07-01-2013 03:00 PM

if so..email me. i dont check here that often anymore.

EDIT!!! wife says the folder is her's!! so the fixie is all that i have. phew! i almost had some splaining to do. she took it out of her purse on our last flight..

Shuie 07-01-2013 03:08 PM

Sounds like a good excuse to buy a 7" Randall Model 1 to me. A Model 14 would work fine, too :)

Dana Norris 07-01-2013 03:09 PM

I would go with what Sidney said, he`s right will probably lose it soon.

Taz's Master 07-01-2013 03:22 PM

Buck 112 and a block of magnesium with a flint imbedded on one side.

Evans, Marv 07-01-2013 03:29 PM

Take Cliff up on his offer. Those look about right.

Head416 07-01-2013 03:35 PM

I'd go with a drop point over a clip point or similar - less "pointy" and hopefully less likely to break when he tries to use it as a screw driver.

sc_rufctr 07-01-2013 03:40 PM

I've never liked Locking Blade knives. IMO They're dangerous because most of them do not have what I would call a "locking" blade.
Get him a quality fixed blade with a good sheath and talk to him about safety and proper handling.

I own a Spanish made "Muela". It does everything I need it to do and it came with a leather sheath.

scottmandue 07-01-2013 03:46 PM

I love those Gerber's,
However a $19 locker at Big 5 is a good bet because as has been said it might get lost, broke, bent...

Having said that I LOVE my SOG knife(s)

and my Buck(s).

The multi tool is a good idea too... I have one on my hip (Gerber) at work everyday.

jyl 07-01-2013 03:50 PM

Cliff, if the fixed is available, I'll pay shipping. I'll PM you. Thanks!

stomachmonkey 07-01-2013 03:54 PM

My vote is fixed blade with a good guard. Until he is comfortable and has developed proper handling technique the guard will protect him from poor grip and sliding his hand down onto the blade.

If you go locking blade make sure it's not of a type that has too strong a release so he's not forced to release it in a way that the blade collapses on him.

FWIW my first knife which I still own was fixed blade with a guard.

jyl 07-01-2013 03:55 PM

Oh yeah, the man card - I don't know what happened to my knives. I used to have a serious pig sticker that Tarzan would have approved of, a pretty Al Mar folder, a brace of throwing knives, a couple of Opinels, a Buck, some Leathermen, a bunch of Swiss Army knives, etc. I cannot seem to find any now, but the Leatherman (which I'll give him too) and the Swiss Armies. And the switchblade. I think I may buy myself a knife.

P.S. Turns out a friend of mind now runs SOG. So I looked at their stuff. Too tacticool for my taste.

scottmandue 07-01-2013 03:58 PM

Cold Steel!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1372719393.jpg

I actually have one of these for working in the garden... scared the heck out of my wife when I started hacking up a overgrown jade plant with it. :cool:

jyl 07-01-2013 04:04 PM

Silly. I'd use a gun.

scottmandue 07-01-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 7525647)
P.S. Turns out a friend of mind now runs SOG. So I looked at their stuff. Too tacticool for my taste.

Doode hook a brother up!!!!

Actually my wife would kill me if I bought another knife... maybe I could hide it in a friends garage?

PM me if your friend can get any deals on factory seconds etc.

scottmandue 07-01-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 7525664)
Silly. I'd use a gun.

Oh sure but when the zombies come and you run out of ammo we will see who is laughing!!! :D

BlueSkyJaunte 07-01-2013 04:13 PM

FWIW, some of us (knife knuts) like to refer to folding knives as "already broken".

They're fun to play with and convenient to have in the office, etc. But if you want reliability and durability, buy a fixed blade.

TimT 07-01-2013 04:19 PM

A Buck knife, this one is a classic...


I hate these threads....... It made me buy a knife I've had my eye on for awhile...

A nice Mcusta Damascus folder

red-beard 07-01-2013 04:24 PM

I like Kershaw knives. The leek is a serious knife.

Amazon Prime: Amazon.com: Kershaw Ken Onion Leek Folding Knife with Speed Safe: Sports & Outdoors

scottmandue 07-01-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 7525699)
I like Kershaw knives. The leek is a serious knife.

Amazon Prime: Amazon.com: Kershaw Ken Onion Leek Folding Knife with Speed Safe: Sports & Outdoors

Oh... you... dirty so and so!!!!

Can I hide it in your garage?

But seriously... that is a bit much of a knife for a 14 year old to take camping...

But I did bookmark it with my Amazon account. ;)

Racerbvd 07-01-2013 04:55 PM

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Cajundaddy 07-01-2013 04:58 PM

Oh my, those mcusta knives are works of art. I would hate to leave one of those with the TSA because I forgot to pack it with my checked luggage. :eek: I think I have left a Swissy behind in 4 continents.

ramonesfreak 07-01-2013 04:58 PM

I highly recommend the Kershaw Skyline

Amazon.com: Kershaw Skyline Knife with Textured Black G-10 Handle: Sports & Outdoors

for the price, its a great little knife. I have a few of them. Compared to my spyderco paramilitary 2 it feels like a toy. however, its sharp, light, moderately safe lock, fun to flick (maybe too fun), and cheap enough that if its lost no big deal

You used to be able to get them at wahlmart but im not sure if they are still available there

im guessing they want fixed blade or locking because they are going to be doing bushcraft stuff....like fire sticks that requiring some hammering? You might want to find out because a heavier-duty knife might be a better option

ramonesfreak 07-01-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 7525682)
A Buck knife, this one is a classic...


I hate these threads....... It made me buy a knife I've had my eye on for awhile...

A nice Mcusta Damascus folder

those mcusta knives have been on my radar for a year now. love them!

rusnak 07-01-2013 05:01 PM

Kershaw Blackout here. I have several, in fact.

I really love my SOG multi-tool though.

But 'lil man might not be a fit for a knife that will cut off a finger, haha. I'd stick with a cheap knife for now, like a Boker or Gerber.

red-beard 07-01-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 7525731)
Oh... you... dirty so and so!!!!

Can I hide it in your garage?

But seriously... that is a bit much of a knife for a 14 year old to take camping...

But I did bookmark it with my Amazon account. ;)

In the Boy Scouts, I carried a 5" fixed blade in a belt sheath.

Today, the Leek is my favorite knife.

TimT 07-01-2013 05:02 PM

I have a Ken Onion "Leek" with a Damascus blade....

Its my fave....for now.... Am waiting for the Mcusta I just ordered as a result of clicking on this thread..:p

Someone mentioned earlier about having a drawer full of knives.... I spent the last 30 mins or so..... rounding up my old carry knives...

Found 17 so far....

Composite damascus leek

scottmandue 07-01-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 7525682)

I have that exact knife with the burlwood handle on my nightstand

Bill Douglas 07-01-2013 05:07 PM

Plenty of good advice, and some not so good advice LOL. Whatever you get him have it engraved on the handle "Camp etc 2013" so he can remember in the future how his dad give him this knife back in 2013 when they were actually legal and what a great camp...


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