Grr, dickhead cop gives me 26 mph over limit speeding ticket
 

First off, I know I was speeding, I was wrong and deserved a ticket. I was heading home after a long drive up I-5 and just outside of Stockton, I got pulled over by CHP. It was on the long stretch of I-5 just past the 580 split and traffic was really light. I was cruising along between 88-90 (I know, already said I was wrong) and the cop writes I was going 96. I questioned this and he immediately said he used radar and I was probably going faster (huh?) and he would bring the video to court if I wanted to go that route. Don't know if it was because it was hot or what but he flipped out for no reason. Obviously it was useless arguing with him but now I find out that anything over 25mph over the limit does not qualify for traffic school. This was the first road trip in my 968 and he sure showed that must-be-arrogant Porsche driver, I'll give him 26 mph over the limit so it goes on his insurance.

FU!

Insurance? Pfff.

That's felony speed here. As in, "Go to jail."

Dude, you do the crime you do the time. Sorry but the cop was just doing his job and there is nothing that says he has to cut you a break.
Yeah it sucks but it is what it is.

Well I guess that is where we disagree Rick. I was NOT going 96 mph, I don't care what you or the POS cop says. He lied, period.

I hope your right, that kind of ticket will leave a mark. Good luck, and that was not sarcasm

You definitely want an attorney for that one. At first I was thinking you were in the 914, does that even go 26 over? Dig the 968, great cars.

Was that yesterday? I was on that same road, heading back from an autocross at the Marina Airport, traffic was not what I would call light around 1730-1800. I hope you were past the construction, double fine in areas marked as construction, even though I have never seen anyone actually working out there. Holey moley it was hot.

Thanks...I know I deserved the ticket and would pay the fine, as much as it hurts, but this was on another level.

No, Toby, it was about 3 hours ago. I don't think it was a construction but who knows, sometimes they aren't marked.

I was going to say something similar. I'd plead not guilty if you truly know you weren't going 96. Let him produce his video. Oh you could have requested that the gun be quarantined and ask for the calibration records. If it has not been done in the allotted time your off the hook.
Good luck and let us know what you plan to do & results.

Dude. You shoulda put the hammer down. :D

I think this one warrants hiring a ticket lawyer. At least get it lowered to where traffic school is an option if the ticket doesn't get dismissed altogether.

Dude... you can cruise all day long on I-5 at 80MPH (***cough, in a Hyundai, cough***) and the CHP will buzz right past you (yes, it has happened).

Rumor is the CHP will give you 5-10 over the limit... you were (pardon the pun) over the limit.

Sorry man, I know it sucks... I got a cali stop ticket (my bad) and after traffic school it was over $300

That doesn't seem to work out for the guy I see on "COPS" :D

Its the no traffic school that really irks me. First ticket since I started driving 16 years ago and now it will go on my record. Can't wait to see what the extra cost will be on my next renewal.

It's crazy how many stories around the internet of people getting EXACTLY 26 mph over the limit:rolleyes:

How much are we talking about for a traffic ticket lawyer? I couldn't seem to find any reasonable answer from my searches.

Be thankful you didn't get that "26 mph over" in British Columbia. They take your car for a period of time (fines and storage$), bump up your insurance premiums and the total bill will amount to over $2k. If you're sure that the cop has fluffed up the speed, I'd definitely go the court route. Cheers and good luck.

Lawyer up.

In NY anything 25+ over posted is automatic revocation of your license.

how much for a good lawyer, easy 600.00.

Usually the lawyer will do a plea bargain with the judge, since it's your first ticket in 16 yrs they would ask for ticket dropped if you don't get a speeding ticket thru the next yr and if you do the ticket stands plus the new ticket, so that would be a big ouch.

Or, I would go to court myself and ask the judge for mercy admit to 16 over and ask for a stay of execution for 6 months and if no ticket in that time, ticket dropped and pay for court costs before you leave the chamber.

For the 18 yrs I had my last Porsche I only got one ticket and that was with laser. I had a detector plus a jammer, worked very good. Anyway, was cruising on I-84 just past Hood River when the laser went beep, I instantly took the foot off gas which I was going 85 in a 65, slowed down to 75 and heard the second beep, which by the rule books they have to do. When I saw him I saw his lights come on and I pulled over almost where he was. Long story short, the book says on laser the second beep is the one they have to use, not the first, the cop wouldn't budge. I sent the ticket in but explained to the judge that I was a chronic speeder that has learned, see my record, and told him I was only a 10 over guy and since my last bunch of tickets were only 10 over, most have been lowered cuz cops are only doing there job and since the second beep was only 10 over, he bought it and sent me a refund.

I got hit for......26 over coming out of Marina Del Rey on the 90 just as it goes over the 405, in a rental SUV... No way I was 26 over, but that's what he wrote me up... When I questioned his "opinion" of my speed... You know what he did?

He said, "have you been drinking?" "I think I smell alcohol". No BS!

That told me to STFU and take it like a man...

I did

When I went to court the judge started the morning in a good mood and slowly thing went down hill with all the riff raff she was dealing with... Having been Pre-law...I argued... Kidding!

I got up there and didn't argue the speed, I threw myself on the mercy of the court in a respectable manner. Judge hemmed and hawed but eventually gave in to my smile, confidence and reasoning :)

Got traffic court but had to pay the ticket.

Ticket was somewhere around 100-200. I thought ok, that's doable. Then at the court cashier I found out about the BS fees that notched it up to nearly $800! No joke, plus traffic court.

That's the last time I ever cruised in traffic without my V1, period...

Go to court - he has to prove you were going 96 - and you have a right to stand up for yourself. You might even consider getting a lawyer to help you - your call.

I haven't had a speeding ticket in ions...although I speed every day. :p

def lawyer up.

Now that's funny.

Did you ask to see his radar readout? Did you ask to see the last recorded calibration? Play it smooth, with respect, don't argue but DO show preparation and accept with fairness. If the cop doesn't allow you or is having a rough day, time in court will decide your fate.

it was over 103 degrees when this happened and I saw how defensive he got when I questioned the 96, it was worthless to try some BS "I know the law" conversation.

I'll fight it and either I'll get a judge in a good mood and get traffic school or I wont and will have to deal with insurance. Pure crap but that's the way it is with law inforcement

You are lucky it was not in NC. 80 and above is a class 2 misdemeanor with possible jail time and license suspension. 15 over in a 55 mph or higher zone is considered reckless driving. $400 plus court fees and license suspension.

Have you checked your speedometer against a GPS?

actually Lee I just did last week because of the cruise control. It was within 1 mph which makes sense since I have stock wheels and tires.

Amazon.com: Fight Your Ticket & Win in California eBook: David, Attorney Brown: Books is a good resource. You could start there, then decide if you need an attorney.

No surprise there since very few tickets are written in positive ions.
Can you say with a straight face that you haven't had a speeding ticket in negative ions?
I think not!

It's like that around here too. They have to show you if you ask to see it. But after the event they don't have to keep data sheets or records.

Sadly :( if it goes before court the judge is more likely to believe honorable police officer other than speeding motorist in a, heavens forbid, Porsche.

Lawyer up and stop whining. Going fast costs money.

90 mph is not "cruising", in my book.

True, generally speaking, but my wife and I, in a used Ford V8, 2door hardtop slushbox, driving cross country from Ohio to southern California for the first time, cruised for hours on end, for two days at 100 mph, through many of the desert states.

And, this was when very few miles had completed sections of nterstate freeways. Been over all of Route 66 ...never once, in subsequent trips, getting tagged in the notorious speed trap just outside Tucumcari.

Oh yeah, that first trip was in mid summer and the Ford had no AC! All windows rolled down, all the way. Good times! :o

The cop is daring you to play the game, and you need to decide if the game is worth it to you, financially, and time-wise.

He's betting it's not worth it for you, and he's probably right.




PS to be honest, if you were doing 88-90 in a 65 . . . . .. . . . well . . . . . . . .

Just wondering, what is the posted limit there? It blows my mind how fast many do drive there in California , even in heavy traffic with no enforcement happening.

Sounds like your guy was wound up a bit.

I'm not even 'old' and I learned a while back... I just do the speed limit, or slightly above to keep up with traffic. That's it.

I freak out at friends for driving fast. Why? I mean, I love to race around and wring out a car, but on the highway... it all goes the same place. if I get there 30 minutes later... so what.

Now flat out speeding just the be speeding... that's what the Agusta is for. It sees your 96 and raises you 60...

I think the low speed limits are downright stupid. Modern cars/roads would handle much higher speeds than 50-55 Mph which is what most are where I live. I could easily drive safely on these roads closer to 90-95 which is what I do to pass quickly.

I usually drive between 10-13 above the limit on the highway unless it means that I have to pass a LEO to do so. Since I go to work early and come home late in a mostly rural area, the traffic is usually very light and there are no kids, pets, etc out and about. Going faster is just not worth the risk if a ticket, increased insurance expense, etc.

Strangely enough, most tickets I have received (none recently) have either been for much higher speed than I was actually going...it I was totally innocent. Maybe karma for all the times they did not catch me...but worrisome nonetheless.

In the rural county that I have lived in the past couple if years, the Sheriff's dept is small with a small budget and don't seem particularly interested in enforcing the speed limit (as it should be and why my local taxes are very low). i have yet to see a Sheriff's dept radar trap driving the length if the county each day and back. The only problem is that now and then there is a State Police speed trap now and then in more travelled areas.

Good luck on this.

Lawyer up.

My wife got a ticket here in NC about 2 months ago. 55 zone and he hit her for 76. We hired a lawyer, he went to court and made a deal. Cost us around $350 for the lawyer and another $200 for the ticket. Seems like a racket, lawyer knows the judge, they plea them all down to reduce workload in traffic court. The state gets the $200 bucks plus court costs, the lawyer gets his fee and the judge keeps his/her court room cleared out.

I picked up on a speeding ticket in NC years ago and had to go before a court magistrate before they would let me go. Had I been going a little faster I was told the car would have been confiscated. It was a rental car and I was on a business trip. Try to put that on the expense account. :D

I got a ticket for 26 over. When I realized what he wrote the ticket for I asked if he could lower it to 24 over so I could take DD. That really set him off and he said he knew I was going well over 100 and if he had clocked me for that I'd be in the back of police car right now.

I went to court and asked the prosecutor if I could still take defensive driving. He pulled my driving record and after a brief discussion about a couple of issues he agreed to let me take it. This was 25 years ago and things have certainly changed but it's worth a try.