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Flieger 08-12-2013 07:31 PM

Engines according to CNN
 
Pretty bad considering this isn't some local newspaper.

How Much Can CNN Get Wrong About F1 Engines, Physics In One Article?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CNN article
While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient.

Turbo engines also tend to be slower taking off -- not ideal for F1 racing. But once in full flight, they maintain speed well, and today you'll often find turbo engines used in trains, trucks and construction equipment.

...

Indeed, throughout the 1980s, the powerful turbo was the F1 engine of choice, able to perform at high altitudes and grip onto steep angles.


HHI944 08-12-2013 07:48 PM

wow...

aigel 08-12-2013 08:02 PM

Oh man, that's terrible. And in today's day and age, where you can research something in 5 minutes online.

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pete3799 08-12-2013 08:06 PM

Seriously?

Flieger 08-12-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 7599073)
Seriously?

Even with the Jalopnik article out for hours, they haven't modified the article:

F1 goes back to the future: Return of the turbo-charged 'teapot' - CNN.com

Flieger 08-12-2013 08:20 PM

Although it should be said that water vapor is a major component of hydrocarbon combustion, so there is "steam" in the exhaust gases, but that steam does not condense through the turbocharger so the steam energy isn't really being used very efficiently (because the turbo would be destroyed by injesting water).

The turbine converts enthalpy in the mixture of exhaust gases (CO2, H2O, hot N2) into mechanical work to drive the compressor wheel.

aigel 08-12-2013 08:26 PM

By Christina Macfarlane and Rachel Wood

Christina ... confirms all I know about French nails ...

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wdfifteen 08-13-2013 05:54 AM

"While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient."

Geesh, it's not a belt, it's rubber band. Didn't anyone explain the concept of the power band to those guys?

5String43 08-13-2013 06:32 AM

I am a copy editor at a small newspaper. I don't often see stories having to do with motor vehicles and/or the way they work and/or their dynamics, but one hits my computer screen every so often, usually in connection to a get-away car, or a cop chase, or emissions or safety laws, or something. I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how cars and trucks work. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, I fix what I can, when I can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.

Flat Six 08-13-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 5string43 (Post 7599495)
I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how (cars and trucks work) anything works. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, i fix what i can, when i can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.

Fixed it for you . . . SmileWavy

Someone once described journalists to me as 'a mile wide and an inch deep'. Makes sense.

kang 08-13-2013 07:04 AM

And all this time I thought there were squirrels in a cage under my hood!

onewhippedpuppy 08-13-2013 08:58 AM

Working in aerospace, I love counting the errors associated with any aircraft related story. Especially plane crashes, because they love to play up the "death from the skies" element.

911SauCy 08-13-2013 09:02 AM

PROOF of the waste that is "media"

Pazuzu 08-13-2013 09:20 AM

Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.

onewhippedpuppy 08-13-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 7599811)
Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.

They have this thing called the internet. Or this place called the library, full of things called books.:cool:

Flat Six 08-13-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 7599811)
If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.

OTOH they could actually accept responsibility for researching it before writing it rather than expect it to be spoon-fed . . .

Flieger 08-13-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5String43 (Post 7599495)
I am a copy editor at a small newspaper. I don't often see stories having to do with motor vehicles and/or the way they work and/or their dynamics, but one hits my computer screen every so often, usually in connection to a get-away car, or a cop chase, or emissions or safety laws, or something. I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how cars and trucks work. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, I fix what I can, when I can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.

And this is freakin CNN! Not a small newspaper! :eek:

Flieger 08-13-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 7599811)
Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.

Wait, so we are supposed to teach the media what they are supposed to be informing us about, having researched their story carefully? Basically they want us to do their jobs? Well, I'd be happy to when they give me a nice cut of their salary. :cool:

We already have a repository of common knowledge. It's called wikipedia. A 10 second google search and click of the first result would yield all that they would need to know to avoid making errors. Non-technical language is fine, but don't get basic concepts so woefully wrong.

Chocaholic 08-13-2013 12:36 PM

....and you're surprised? Yes, it's CNN.

That should tell you something about CNN.

Watch it one morning for as long as you can stand the idiotic banter, giggling, over-talking and self promotion. If you watch long enough, you may detect a real news story but you have to stick with it for a while.

sammyg2 08-13-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Six (Post 7599859)
OTOH they could actually accept responsibility for researching it before writing it rather than expect it to be spoon-fed . . .

But they are ENTITLED to have someone else do their job for them.


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