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Engines according to CNN

Pretty bad considering this isn't some local newspaper.

How Much Can CNN Get Wrong About F1 Engines, Physics In One Article?





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While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient.

Turbo engines also tend to be slower taking off -- not ideal for F1 racing. But once in full flight, they maintain speed well, and today you'll often find turbo engines used in trains, trucks and construction equipment.

...

Indeed, throughout the 1980s, the powerful turbo was the F1 engine of choice, able to perform at high altitudes and grip onto steep angles.

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Old 08-12-2013, 07:31 PM
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:48 PM
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Oh man, that's terrible. And in today's day and age, where you can research something in 5 minutes online.

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Seriously?
Even with the Jalopnik article out for hours, they haven't modified the article:

F1 goes back to the future: Return of the turbo-charged 'teapot' - CNN.com
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Although it should be said that water vapor is a major component of hydrocarbon combustion, so there is "steam" in the exhaust gases, but that steam does not condense through the turbocharger so the steam energy isn't really being used very efficiently (because the turbo would be destroyed by injesting water).

The turbine converts enthalpy in the mixture of exhaust gases (CO2, H2O, hot N2) into mechanical work to drive the compressor wheel.
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"While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient."

Geesh, it's not a belt, it's rubber band. Didn't anyone explain the concept of the power band to those guys?
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I am a copy editor at a small newspaper. I don't often see stories having to do with motor vehicles and/or the way they work and/or their dynamics, but one hits my computer screen every so often, usually in connection to a get-away car, or a cop chase, or emissions or safety laws, or something. I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how cars and trucks work. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, I fix what I can, when I can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.
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I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how (cars and trucks work) anything works. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, i fix what i can, when i can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.
Fixed it for you . . .

Someone once described journalists to me as 'a mile wide and an inch deep'. Makes sense.
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Working in aerospace, I love counting the errors associated with any aircraft related story. Especially plane crashes, because they love to play up the "death from the skies" element.
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Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.
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Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.
They have this thing called the internet. Or this place called the library, full of things called books.
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If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.
OTOH they could actually accept responsibility for researching it before writing it rather than expect it to be spoon-fed . . .
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I am a copy editor at a small newspaper. I don't often see stories having to do with motor vehicles and/or the way they work and/or their dynamics, but one hits my computer screen every so often, usually in connection to a get-away car, or a cop chase, or emissions or safety laws, or something. I've concluded that nobody among this generation of reporters and city editors, knows or cares how cars and trucks work. Nobody. And they don't appear to know, or care, what they don't know. This surprises me, given the fundamental nature of this technology. When these kinds of problems arise, I fix what I can, when I can. But it seems a losing battle. I see this with other subject matter as well.
And this is freakin CNN! Not a small newspaper!
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Free Publicity - Connecting Reporters and News Sources - Help a Reporter Out

Instead of complaining, contribute. Put your bit of expertise into the mix, so that reporters/journalists can use it, instead of having to make stuff up.

If no one GIVES them the right info, they can't ever be expected to have it on hand.
Wait, so we are supposed to teach the media what they are supposed to be informing us about, having researched their story carefully? Basically they want us to do their jobs? Well, I'd be happy to when they give me a nice cut of their salary.

We already have a repository of common knowledge. It's called wikipedia. A 10 second google search and click of the first result would yield all that they would need to know to avoid making errors. Non-technical language is fine, but don't get basic concepts so woefully wrong.
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....and you're surprised? Yes, it's CNN.

That should tell you something about CNN.

Watch it one morning for as long as you can stand the idiotic banter, giggling, over-talking and self promotion. If you watch long enough, you may detect a real news story but you have to stick with it for a while.
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OTOH they could actually accept responsibility for researching it before writing it rather than expect it to be spoon-fed . . .
But they are ENTITLED to have someone else do their job for them.

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