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Por_sha911 08-31-2013 02:08 PM

Everyone has skill and talent at the elite level of any sport. What makes winners at that level is mental toughness and a will to win.
Look at tennis. They all can make the shot. The winner is the one that stayed focused and didn't get rattled by a bad game or tighten up and not be able to close out the final point. Same with race drivers. They drive a brilliant race and then put it in the wall in the last few laps. The BRUINS :D won in 2011 against a lot more talented teams but they refused to quit.
GO Bruins. (sorry I couldn't resist)

weseeeee 08-31-2013 02:15 PM

The guy does know how to win. I think he has enough talent to play in the NFL but QB may not be the position.

J P Stein 08-31-2013 02:16 PM

The pro QB game is changing.....look at San Fran & Seattle. .....wheels help but ya still have to be able to throw the rock.

RWebb 08-31-2013 02:21 PM

maybe he needs to get more experience - you can bet he is working to be better

Nickshu 08-31-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 7631661)
He does not throw well enough, pretty simple.

Exactly. He has a great attitude, acts as a good role model for the team, from what I have heard has decent leadership skills in practice/in the lockerroom.....but (it's a big BUT), he can't throw the ball with any accuracy or consistency beyond screen passes and short tosses. If you want to win in the NFL you have to be able to throw the long ball with some accuracy and Tebow just can't seem to do that. We gave him a good shot here in Denver but it just didn't work out.

sammyg2 08-31-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mreid (Post 7631944)
I watched the video. Is he a bright man?

yes, he is. There is very little not to like and admire about this man. The more you know about him the more you respect him. this was from when he was a senior in college:


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Classroom

Tebow boasts a 3.66 grade point average while working toward a degree in family, youth and community sciences. Tebow was named an ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American for the second year in a row in 2008. Tebow became just the fourth UF football player to achieve Academic All-America recognition in consecutive seasons. He was also named the SEC Scholar-Athlete of the Year by the SEC coaches after the 2008 season.


Character

Tebow radiates as a leader for the Gator football program, not only on the field of competition, but in the classroom, community and in his off-the-field activities. Tebow’s maturity and dedication to all things in his life sets a standard of excellence that his teammates, coaches and fans admire respectfully. As an example, Tebow was recognized as a member of the 2009 Allstate AFCA Good Works Team for his off-the-field achievements and contributions to the community. He was voted by his teammates as a 2008 team captain of the Gator football squad, and he was also a member of the 2008 UF Football Leadership Committee, composed of current Gators, which serves to help make decisions that better the team as a whole. Additionally, amongst his bountiful awards, honors and recognitions, Tebow received two awards last season that had special focus on non-football related honors that depict his character best. Tebow reeled in the Wuerffel Trophy, given annually to the college football player who best combines exemplary community service with athletic and academic achievement. He also won the Disney Sports Spirit Award in 2008, distributed to college football’s most inspirational player. In addition, Tebow was recognized by the University of Florida this year for his outstanding character and accomplishments by being inducted into the UF Hall of Fame, while also being selected as a Florida Blue Key inductee during spring 2009.


Community

Nationally recognized for his work in the community, Tebow selflessly uses his platform as a Gator and football player to positively impact local, national and international communities. His position on the Florida football team and as a Heisman Trophy winner have little to do with the level of dedication that he has to performing community service. Tebow and his four siblings were raised providing service for those in need. As part of his father’s foundation, the Bob Tebow Evangelical Association, Tim has spent almost every summer of his life preaching and providing support, not only in the Philippines where he was born, but across the world. According to Tim, he was in the seventh grade when he began to speak with locals in the Philippines, not just spreading the word of God, but spreading universal messages of hope, faith and perseverance. With his recent success with the Florida Gators, the opportunities for Tebow to reach out to community have obviously amplified. Although his busy schedule prevents him from fulfilling all of his requests, Tebow has spent more than 500 hours of community service and appearances in each of the past two years, including making phone calls to sick children and going on hospital visits to pediatric wings. Tebow cites his priorities in this order: faith, family, academics and then football. He uses his success on the football field as a platform to spread his message. He understands that football provides him an opportunity to make positive changes in peoples’ lives and he takes advantage of that platform every chance he gets. In the past year, Tebow has taken advantage of his breaks from school to go abroad on missions trips and through his involvement with UF’s Goodwill Gators program, he has made many hospital visits and attended community service functions throughout Gainesville. In addition, he has taken it upon himself to schedule his own visits to hospitals, schools and prisons during his off-weekends.
Competition

On the field, Tebow is just as inspirational as he is off the field, always rallying his teammates and providing positive and energetic encouragement as a leader and team captain. Tebow continued to break records on the playing field during the 2008 season as he led the Gators to their second SEC Championship and second national championship appearance in the last three years. He was named the Offensive MVP of the 2009 FedEx BCS National Championship and the SEC Offensive Player of the Year by both the media and the coaches, also earning first-team All-SEC honors by both outlets. In 2007, Tebow became the only sophomore ever to win the Heisman Trophy, the Sullivan Award, the Davey O’Brien Award and the Maxwell Award (2007), is the only player in NCAA history to rush and pass for at least 20 touchdowns in a season (2007), was the first sophomore in UF history to be named an All-American (2007)and was the second player to repeat as Maxwell Award winner in 2007 and 2008. Tebow has thrown for 6,390 yards and 67 touchdowns in three seasons, while having also gained 2,037 yards on the ground with 43 rushing touchdowns, both school records by a Florida quarterback. He is the only quarterback in school history to have rushed for 100 yards in three games. In 2008, Tebow achieved a first-place ranking in the school’s record book for the most career rushing touchdowns (43) and tied for sixth in the SEC in rushing touchdowns. Tebow has enjoyed breaking Florida records as a dual threat quarterback in both rushing and passing. Tebow has already made his mark at Florida, both as a good person on and off the football field, and has one more year to utilize college football as his platform, both on the field, in the classroom, and in the community.
Tim Tebow | Football 2009 | Senior CLASS Award

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At the end of his college career, Tebow held 5 NCAA, 14 Southeastern Conference, and 28 University of Florida statistical records.[73]
He was the SEC's all-time leader in career passing efficiency (170.8), completion percentage (67.1%), passing touchdown to interception ratio (5.5 to 1), rushing yards by a quarterback (2947), rushing touchdowns (any position) (57), and total touchdowns responsible for (145).

[2][74] Among many mentions in the NCAA Division-I record book, Tebow is ranked second in career passing efficiency, third in career yards per attempt (9.33), 8th in career rushing touchdowns, and also owns the record for most consecutive games in which he both threw at least one touchdown pass and scored at least one rushing touchdown (14).[75]
Tim Tebow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

sammyg2 08-31-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 7631661)
He does not throw well enough, pretty simple.

According to the record books, he was the 2nd best quarterback ever to play college football. he just doesn't fit the stereotypical NFL quarterback mold.

Neither did Randal Cunningham when the eagles took chance on him.
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In his rookie season he played sparingly as a backup to veteran Ron Jaworski but made a big splash with his uncanny scrambling ability, though he completed just 34 percent of his passes and threw just one touchdown against eight interceptions.
In 1986, new head coach Buddy Ryan arrived in Philadelphia and made wholesale changes, many of them unorthodox. At the quarterback position, Ryan designated 35-year-old Ron Jaworski the starter but would replace the aging veteran with the fleet-footed Cunningham in third-and-long situations where the youngster’s scrambling would presumably put the defense on its heels.

In July of 2012, Cunningham was named the twenty-third greatest quarterback of the NFL's post-merger era, according to Football Nation.[10]
Randall Cunningham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jcommin 08-31-2013 04:06 PM

Overrated but got media attention which got public attention. You can only go so far being on center stage. Sooner or later you got to produce and if you don't throw well - it's over.

He is fortunate to have his 5 minutes in the sun.

Lapkritis 08-31-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7632089)
According to the record books, he was the 2nd best quarterback ever to play college football. he just doesn't fit the stereotypical NFL quarterback mold.

Neither did Randal Cunningham when the eagles took chance on him.

Randall Cunningham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

College records don't mean didly **** at the NFL level. A friend of mine holds the record for most collegiate touchdowns ever... he broke Jerry Rices record. Best hands you're likely to ever see at any level. A college highlight reel and a great guy. Never played a snap in the regular season NFL...

Buckterrier 08-31-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 7632036)
Everyone has skill and talent at the elite level of any sport. What makes winners at that level is mental toughness and a will to win.
Look at tennis. They all can make the shot. The winner is the one that stayed focused and didn't get rattled by a bad game or tighten up and not be able to close out the final point. Same with race drivers. They drive a brilliant race and then put it in the wall in the last few laps. The BRUINS :D won in 2011 against a lot more talented teams but they refused to quit.
GO Bruins. (sorry I couldn't resist)

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RWebb 08-31-2013 06:16 PM

Tebow can't make it in the NFL because he spends too much time on his knees.


































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M.D. Holloway 08-31-2013 07:54 PM

The game is all about performance at an insane level. A few teams tried him, he didn't have it. If he did he would be playing. Simple.

Just cuz he's a great guy don't think he will be a given on Monday night. we project stradom on our wish for overall excellence. Not all rich men are smart, not all beautiful women are clean - the world is full of stupid rich guys and sleazy hot women...

KFC911 09-01-2013 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 7632463)
The game is all about performance at an insane level. A few teams tried him, he didn't have it. If he did he would be playing. Simple.
...

Yep....Tebow needs to go to the Jax Jags for one last try at either QB (or TE)...he'll put an additional 10K people in the stands every game and since the Jags really suck (according to my buds)...if he can't make it there, he's done. He will still "own" the city and still have a long career ahead of him (PR, announcer, front office, etc.). I'm suspecting that he just doesn't have "the hands" for TE however...but I dunno. He's a "class act" all the way...just doesn't have the QB skills necessary at the NFL level...it's just that simple.

ps: His stretch at Denver was somewhat of a fluke imo....defenses "caught on", and "that was the end of that"...

J P Stein 09-01-2013 04:58 AM

I think someone will pick him up. He needs a good solid quarterback coach to improve his mechanics......some team with the that has time to look to their future and develop a QB......you can't teach some of his God given talents. He has a rife but doesn't know how/where to aim it......he reminds me of Steve Young without the savvy but even bigger....one can teach the savvy but not the size. I really thought Belichick (sp?) was gonna do it.....

billybek 09-01-2013 05:33 AM

If nothing else, he would make a great CFL QB....

I'm sure that is exactly what he wants.(green font...)

Tobra 09-01-2013 05:54 AM

Go Stampeders!

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 7631740)
But I thought he had Jesus on his side?

We all do.

He is definitely a fine young man, no question about it. Too good an athlete not to be playing. I was also surprised that the Pats did not make him a TE, maybe he does not want to be a TE. He is a proven winner, just needs to find the right team with the right offense. Not a prototypical NFL QB.

mattdavis11 09-01-2013 05:57 AM

I'd like to think Jerry would give him a shot. He can't be any worse than Romo. When it's all on the line, Tebow wins games, Romo, not so much. I guess it's easy for me to say being a Dallas fan, but we rely on prayers to win games, Tebow might have them.

J P Stein 09-01-2013 06:42 AM

Option QBs are showing now showing their mettle in the NFL.
Every time R. Wilson pulls back the hand off from M Lynch you can almost hear the LBs & defense in general saying "Oh s***".

There aren't many QBs with the size & skills on a P Manning but there is an excess of option QBs, 6' or less in college that never get a shot at the "bigs" cause they're not 6'-5". Sure, Wilson is special, he got his shot, and is making the best of it. Innovation is not a high priority in the NFL.......which makes it so booooring.

timchar 09-01-2013 07:45 AM

He's a great man in my book. His mechanics throwing are a bit odd, too big of an arm wind up. He also lacks the astute ability of knowing where the opposition is around him. He needs more time to elevate his game to NFL standards....But hey, what do I know, I'm a tennis player...Tim

VincentVega 09-01-2013 07:49 AM

I dont understand the Tebow love.

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He does not throw well enough, pretty simple.
This.

He was a successful college qb and doesnt have enough ability to make it in the nfl. The game doesnt care about anything except his ability and he doesnt have it.


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