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gshase 09-13-2013 01:09 PM

The cop had no problem Lawyering up.

Tobra 09-13-2013 04:07 PM

How fast was he going to hit them that hard? Bike was clearly moving along pretty good. Notice before hitting the bike he was straddling the line for a while. His phone records get subpoenaed for sure. Wonder if the did a BAC test on him. Okay, I am kidding about that, I don't wonder at all, I know.

Brando 09-13-2013 04:21 PM

Cop's charges will be dropped "in the interest of justice".

GWN7 09-13-2013 05:29 PM

Not all police get away with charges.

Toronto police officer guilty of assaulting G20 protester Adam Nobody - The Globe and Mail

A Toronto constable has been found guilty of assault with a weapon after he struck a man with a baton while he was pinned to the ground by several officers during the G20 protests in Toronto in 2010.

Constable Babak Andalib-Goortani was convicted Thursday, in the high-profile case of protester Adam Nobody, whose arrest was captured on video while he was kicked, punched and struck in the face with a knee.

“The resistance offered by Mr. Nobody was minimal … A police officer is not entitled to use unlimited force to effect arrest,” Ontario Court Justice Louise Botham said in her decision. “I do not believe … that any of the blows struck by the defendant were proportionate or necessary.”

The video evidence was “limited but cogent,” the judge said.

“Hopefully, this helps vindicate the 1,100 people that were arrested and forced upon that day, including myself,” Mr. Nobody said outside court.

“Justice is served and officers, you know, they can’t get away with stuff like this. They can’t attack citizens and it just feels really great right now. I’m elated.”

Mike McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association, said the officer’s counsel will see whether there are grounds for appeal. “We feel that the judge got it wrong,” Mr. McCormack said in an interview.

KevinTodd 09-13-2013 06:31 PM

I happen to live near a zone precinct and witness first-hand the absolute disregard that so-called law enforcement officers seem to have. I routinely watch them run traffic lights, fail to yield to right-of-way traffic, and utilize their lights/sirens for no other reason than to expedite their trips by 30 seconds.

Today I took a right turn on a green light while on my motorcycle on the way to work and was completely cut-off by a dick-head cop in a K-9 unit as he pulled out of this precinct. He then realized he had cut me off and quickly sped up to over 50 mph in an effort to create a gap between his vehicle and mine. Bear in mind that this is a residential area where the posted speed limit is 30 mph.

When we reached the controlled intersection a few blocks away he then simply flashed his beacons at the one car in line and then cut a double yellow to go around this guy so he could blast the light. I swear to God I see this kind of behavior so much that I actually am shocked when one of these "protectors" does actually heed a traffic signal.

They don't care and they protect their own. Organized crime, criminal gang activity, whatever....these guys think they are above the law.

Rick Lee 09-13-2013 08:55 PM

With the increasing militarization and immunity of our civilian police forces, my respect for them drops daily. But I will say the ones around here are pretty cool with bikers. I wear full gear with a dayglo jacket, so I look pretty safety conscious, and I do speed a lot. They leave me alone.

Noah930 09-13-2013 10:05 PM

My problem with this video is not that it was a cop who ran over a motorcycle with two people on it. My problem is that it was a totally negligent driver who ran over a motorcycle with two people on it. This guy should lose his driver's license for a very, very long time.

wdfifteen 09-14-2013 04:18 AM

I just checked court records. It's been 3 weeks and so far no charges have been filed. I'm calling the prosecutor Monday.

Tobra 09-14-2013 04:40 AM

Thank you Patrick

911SauCy 09-14-2013 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 7654451)
Back in 1982 I got off the hwy onto a road leading into East Lansing with a 45 mph speed limit on my Honda Hawk 400 cc motorcycle.

I was doing the speed limit if not a little under, when the cop car decided to pull out of a parking lot and get up on my rear bumper.

I felt like he wanted me to speed up so he could pull me over, I kept a constant speed with him inching his car ever closer. He finally made contact, and not in a slight way, then backed off a little.

I dropped it down a gear and sped off doing 100 mph, they did not give chase.

The kicks some cops get out of intimating others should not be underestimated. Clearly in the video this cop was not paying attention while speeding himself, and was more concerned about the damage to his cruiser than anything else.

A real piece of work which should not have a badge in my opinion. We would all be safer with that type behind bars or at least not operating a vehicle of any type.

Your last statement hits the nail on the head...

With all of the LEO's I am associated with we often joke, but there is not joke, that if they weren't cops they'd be criminals.

The majority of them, think they're above the law. One of the major reasons I decided not to join the "brotherhood" last year.

edgemar 09-14-2013 08:55 AM

Sometimes it happens the other way around:

The officer tries to sue the driver saying he maliciously stopped short when he was pulling him over...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379177704.jpg

rsNINESOOPER 09-14-2013 01:20 PM

The erosion of the public's trust of law enforcement officers and the affect of that on society at large is evident at this point. Law enforcement is militarizing their actions and equipment to try and stay ahead of what they believe to be on the horizon. Sadly they are $hiTt!ng their own beds by not upholding the law on either side of the fence at an alarming rate. A self fulfilling prophecy created by the lack of accountability, and ignorance of their base mission to serve the public. They are a major force in shaping the future interaction/reaction of the citizens they were originally hired to protect and serve. I have a number of friends in law enforcement and to hear them talk about current policies and closed door clean up is frightening and depressing.

As a side note; while in college I had parked my Vespa half a car length away from a red zone and it was struck at high speed by a cruiser driving in reverse who then left the scene. Another officer came in to the record store I was at and asked aloud who owned the scooter. I followed him outside and saw the Vespa laying down a good 35 feet from where it had been parked. He said simply that I should not have parked it so close to a red zone. he pointed to the foot patrol office down the block and said I could "fill out a form" then left. Two months later and many many many phone calls later I finally got an answer that the Police department would pay $100 to repair the totaled Vespa (totally destroyed front forks, frame, and handlebars). When I argued they said take it or leave it. Loosely translated they told me to #$#@ off. I tried to pursue legal justice but could not afford to.

Lets just say that a few months later during a response to a couch fire down the street a cruiser was parked across the street on our college kid block.
That car did not stand a chance....... Butter on the glass, missing windshield wipers, dog poop under door handles, crazy glue in the locks, and a crude picture of a scooter drawn in the butter on the glass amongst all the other notes written by a dozen college kids who had had enough trampling.

Porsche-O-Phile 09-14-2013 02:07 PM

Absolutely agree.

Respect is supposed to be earned. It is not an entitlement of one's position or title (e.g. "Officer", "Congressman", "Mayor", "Governor" or whatever). It needs to be earned every single day by one's actions and choices. LEOs would do well to remember that. And that a public which respects them and their role is far less of a threat than a public who is suspicious, intimidated, fearful or which feels looked down upon by them.

It used to be we taught our kids that cops were the "good guys". I strongly suspect that's no longer the case - and for good reason.

KevinTodd 09-14-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsNINESOOPER (Post 7656380)
The erosion of the public's trust of law enforcement officers and the affect of that on society at large is evident at this point. Law enforcement is militarizing their actions and equipment to try and stay ahead of what they believe to be on the horizon. Sadly they are $hiTt!ng their own beds by not upholding the law on either side of the fence at an alarming rate. A self fulfilling prophecy created by the lack of accountability, and ignorance of their base mission to serve the public. They are a major force in shaping the future interaction/reaction of the citizens they were originally hired to protect and serve. I have a number of friends in law enforcement and to hear them talk about current policies and closed door clean up is frightening and depressing.

As a side note; while in college I had parked my Vespa half a car length away from a red zone and it was struck at high speed by a cruiser driving in reverse who then left the scene. Another officer came in to the record store I was at and asked aloud who owned the scooter. I followed him outside and saw the Vespa laying down a good 35 feet from where it had been parked. He said simply that I should not have parked it so close to a red zone. he pointed to the foot patrol office down the block and said I could "fill out a form" then left. Two months later and many many many phone calls later I finally got an answer that the Police department would pay $100 to repair the totaled Vespa (totally destroyed front forks, frame, and handlebars). When I argued they said take it or leave it. Loosely translated they told me to #$#@ off. I tried to pursue legal justice but could not afford to.

Lets just say that a few months later during a response to a couch fire down the street a cruiser was parked across the street on our college kid block.
That car did not stand a chance....... Butter on the glass, missing windshield wipers, dog poop under door handles, crazy glue in the locks, and a crude picture of a scooter drawn in the butter on the glass amongst all the other notes written by a dozen college kids who had had enough trampling.


Well put.

I do hold on to respect in general for LEOs but I'm telling you it's getting more and more difficult each day to do so.

Tobra 09-14-2013 03:27 PM

You will get over it soon enough if you have much interaction with them Todd.

KevinTodd 09-15-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 7656543)
You will get over it soon enough if you have much interaction with them Todd.


I suppose you're right. Thankfully I never needed them as my role model to begin with.

wdfifteen 09-25-2013 05:00 AM

Prosecutor has turned the matter over to the grand jury. They are being very hush hush about it, wouldn't give me any specifics at all. I asked, "Turning what over to the grand jury?" and all they would say is, "The case," - nothing about what they had to show to the grand jury.
The cop is on administrative duty.
That's all I've been able to dig up.

kach22i 09-25-2013 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 7673096)
That's all I've been able to dig up.

Thanks for posting.

RWebb 09-25-2013 11:41 AM

Grand juries are always secret - the old saying is that "a Prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich" so if he wants an indictment, he is very likely to get one


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