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Rodsrsr 09-30-2013 07:31 PM

why do I hate Overhaulin?
 
Is it because every car looks the same when completed? Chip Foose has one look and applies it to every car that lands in his shop. A once proud classic muscle car is pimped out with 20" custom rims (that look like they've been dipped in chrome) The engine is ripped out and replaced with a SBC crate motor, custom paint, did I say custom paint? I think 90% of the focus is on the paint, and a stereo system so overkill that even low-riders would be in awe. It just seems that no matter who owns the car, the build is the exactly same. Imagine what they would do if they got their hands on your nice P-car.:eek: Now.... Gas Monkey Garage gets it. They have a different style and usually retain many of the stock features. I actually dont think I've ever witnessed a stereo install on the entire season. Cool shop.

RANDY P 09-30-2013 08:07 PM

that's what the sponsors give them to install- SBC's_ PS google some of the dirt on that show, they messed up a car or two.

My best friend has appeared in a few episodes...

rjp

VINMAN 09-30-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 7682510)
Now.... Gas Monkey Garage gets it. They have a different style and usually retain many of the stock features. I actually dont think I've ever witnessed a stereo install on the entire season. Cool shop.

Agreed. Without a doubt, my fave of all the car programs.




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aigel 09-30-2013 11:04 PM

Dump the TV - Overhaulin' in your garage.

TV is about watching other people do things you enjoy ...

G

sc_rufctr 10-01-2013 01:33 AM

I used to watch it but it's so predictable now, I don't bother.

They need to freshen it up or stop the series.

J P Stein 10-01-2013 03:48 AM

+1 for Gas Monkey...

BK911 10-01-2013 03:48 AM

Agree with Gas Monkey. Really like their style.
Love Sue. "Gas Monkey? You stink. More like a$$ monkey." :D

74-911 10-01-2013 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by J P Stein (Post 7682807)
+1 for Gas Monkey...

Make that another +1 for Gas Monkey... my wife even watches it.

bkreigsr 10-01-2013 04:21 AM

I have to disagree regarding the 'one look for every car' statement.
Here's his take on an air-cooled classic. He's shows a lot of restraint on this project.
Bill K
(still gives me the creeps though, with the thought of the driver's legs being in front of the front wheels)

The Chip Foose Designs VW Microbus

GH85Carrera 10-01-2013 04:29 AM

Another Gas Monkey fan.

The overhauling formula is the same I agree. I would be very upset if my El Camino fell into their hands. No one can paint a car in a week and have quality work. It may look good on TV the first few days, but in a year that paint job is gonna blow chunks. My Elky does not need paint, but after 320,000 miles it could use an entire interior and dash.

I like the Fantomworks show. He takes months to restore a car. True craftsmanship. I would LOVE to have my Elky go through that shop. Their prices reflect their quality.

berettafan 10-01-2013 04:32 AM

Nothing lamer than ultra low profile tires on a vintage auto of any sort. Shows a complete lack of appreciation for the vehicle in question.

matt711 10-01-2013 05:09 AM

Even if you don' t appreciate the looks of the cars on overhaulin I would be damn happy to have one of them. They did a 60s Cadillac a few years back that was beautiful. The finished product is pretty much new from front to back and loaded with upgraded performance parts. I can't even begin to imagine the parts bill for one of these cars not to mention the paint and body work labor charges.

Rednine11 10-01-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 7682510)
Is it because every car looks the same when completed? Chip Foose has one look and applies it to every car that lands in his shop. A once proud classic muscle car is pimped out with 20" custom rims (that look like they've been dipped in chrome) The engine is ripped out and replaced with a SBC crate motor, custom paint, did I say custom paint? I think 90% of the focus is on the paint, and a stereo system so overkill that even low-riders would be in awe. It just seems that no matter who owns the car, the build is the exactly same. Imagine what they would do if they got their hands on your nice P-car.:eek: Now.... Gas Monkey Garage gets it. They have a different style and usually retain many of the stock features. I actually dont think I've ever witnessed a stereo install on the entire season. Cool shop.

I agree 100% I am not a fan of Foose..he is not my style
I do like Ass Monkey though.

J P Stein 10-01-2013 05:25 AM

I believe every gear head knows a Richard Rawlings.....many without his ability to laugh at himself. Let's hope he doesn't change....he's just slick enough as is.:cool:

widebody911 10-01-2013 05:31 AM

Foose (verb): to foul up a car with heavy-handed rote "customization"; to execute so many mundane modifications to a vehicle as to make it an undesirable caricature of itself. "What car is he going to Foose this week?"

See also f*ck up, Bangle

matt711 10-01-2013 05:56 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380635690.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380635711.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380635738.jpg

The style may be a little over the top but I would be pretty happy to have any of these in my garage.

stomachmonkey 10-01-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 7682844)
Nothing lamer than ultra low profile tires on a vintage auto of any sort. Shows a complete lack of appreciation for the vehicle in question.

Agreed.

Some cars you can put just about any rim on, other cars only look correct with a select few while a few cars never look correct with anything but the original stock wheels.

weseeeee 10-01-2013 06:10 AM

I'm another Gas monkey fan. I like the fact that they leave some of their cars paint basically the way they found it and just add clear coat.

Laneco 10-01-2013 07:33 AM

I like Gas Monkey mostly because some of the guys are pretty darn fun-loving. But I am definitely an Overhaulin' fan. The prevalence of SBC engines is due to the high percentage of SBC cars. A lot of the small block cars wind up with a big block. If it is a Ford it generally stays Ford, usually courtesy of Roush, same with Mopar remaining Mopar.

What Foose has done is inspired a lot of people to create someone unique for a loved one as a surprise. So let me offer another definition:

To Foose (verb): To use your hands and your heart to give someone you love something they have always dreamed about.

angela

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380641535.jpg

Rodsrsr 10-01-2013 07:59 AM

Don't get me wrong. I agree that the overhaulin crew can do some amazing work, but that's not my issue. They just use the same prescription for every project, and the cars more often then not are so over the top that they end up being something that you probably wouldn't even want to drive anymore. The gentleman above sitting on the hood of the Black car probably never invisioned 20" subs and headrest monitors that are no doubt a permanent custom fixture of his new overhaulin interior. :p Besides, Richard Rollins is way cooler then Chip.

NY65912 10-01-2013 08:47 AM

Foose has two "looks".

Two tone and surprised. The dude always looks surprised.

matt711 10-01-2013 09:02 AM

Never seen headrest monitors on overhaulin, maybe on old pimp my ride episodes...

Laneco 10-01-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 7683152)
Don't get me wrong. I agree that the overhaulin crew can do some amazing work, but that's not my issue. They just use the same prescription for every project, and the cars more often then not are so over the top that they end up being something that you probably wouldn't even want to drive anymore. The gentleman above sitting on the hood of the Black car probably never invisioned 20" subs and headrest monitors that are no doubt a permanent custom fixture of his new overhaulin interior. :p .....

The black car does not have 20's, or head rest monitors or anything else like that. And the fellow sitting on the hood is my father. It took us two years to build that car for him.

Love, Lies and Larceny... - MonteCarloSS.com Message Board

angela

onewhippedpuppy 10-01-2013 09:11 AM

I think some of you guys are confusing "Overhaulin" with "Pimp My Ride", "West Coast Customs", or some other crap. I've never seen headrest monitors or silly stereos on Overhaulin. Foose definitely has a theme, but he does change things up depending on the car and owner. I've seen some episodes that result in a very mild custom build, and some that are pretty out there. Normally I like the end result with the exception of the wheels, I personally can't stand the trend of putting oversized wheels and low profile tires on old cars. Anything bigger than 16" risks looking goofy in my opinion.

While I also question the ability to turn out a quality product in a week, they definitely use quality products. I've never seen them drop in a high HP big block without also upgrading the suspension, brakes, and transmission. If you guys are expecting them to do a totally stock restoration, you're missing the point of the show. He can stop by my house and steal one of my cars anytime.

Rodsrsr 10-01-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7683295)
The black car does not have 20's, or head rest monitors or anything else like that. And the fellow sitting on the hood is my father. It took us two years to build that car for him.

Love, Lies and Larceny... - MonteCarloSS.com Message Board

angela


Well that's a relief. Good job. SmileWavy A car thats actually built with the owners taste in mind vs. the builder.

Rodsrsr 10-01-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7683305)
I think some of you guys are confusing "Overhaulin" with "Pimp My Ride", "West Coast Customs", or some other crap. I've never seen headrest monitors or silly stereos on Overhaulin. Foose definitely has a theme, but he does change things up depending on the car and owner. I've seen some episodes that result in a very mild custom build, and some that are pretty out there. Normally I like the end result with the exception of the wheels, I personally can't stand the trend of putting oversized wheels and low profile tires on old cars. Anything bigger than 16" risks looking goofy in my opinion.

While I also question the ability to turn out a quality product in a week, they definitely use quality products. I've never seen them drop in a high HP big block without also upgrading the suspension, brakes, and transmission. If you guys are expecting them to do a totally stock restoration, you're missing the point of the show. He can stop by my house and steal one of my cars anytime.

If Foose ever got his hands on my turbo here's how the build would go. First he'd pull off the Lindsay Fuchs (because he would think they were stock) and put on a set of over polished 20's. next he'd tear out my RS interior and put in a full leather everywere from top to bottom with the obligatory 20" subs/full surround sound system. The paint job would undoubtly have stripes or multi colors. The engine would be left alone since he wouldnt know how to work on it, but he'd paint it SBD Red. Car would come back 500 lbs heavier. :p

KaptKaos 10-01-2013 09:43 AM

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willtel 10-01-2013 09:56 AM

I don't think it is really fair to judge Foose based on his work on the show. He has won some of the most prestigious automotive awards in history multiple times. You don't get those for being a hack.

techweenie 10-01-2013 10:19 AM

Well, yeah. I was at Cars & Coffee a couple years back and Foose Sr was standing by a new car he'd brought. I said something like 'a two-tone Foose car! Who'd have imagined.'

The looks I got from the group were priceless. Deadly, but priceless.

Chip is one of the truly nice guys in the business. He's kind of an OCD type. Aside from the predilection for 2-toning, he does some really brilliant restyling. However, I think he may be locked into a specific era of styling memes. As Overhaulin is a product promotion show, he may not have a lot of choice in the brand of parts he installs. It's all paid placement.

And, yes, Joe, I've seen AJ in person, and she holds up under close scrutiny.

widebody911 10-01-2013 10:33 AM

Nope. He took a nice, dry, original bus and made a mess out of it.

If anyone else had done something like this, we'd fun of them, but when Foose does it, it's somehow 'awesome'

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380635690.jpg

matt711 10-01-2013 10:56 AM

The nice dry bus was a barely running heap when Foose got it. When he was done it was a rust free bus with a show quality paint job, completely new drivetrain, new brakes, new wiring, and all new chrome. Then it went right back to the original owner who never could have afforded to all of this to his pride and joy. The owner certainly appreciated all the effort that went into his bus. Even if you don't care for his style Foose seems like a pretty genuine guy. Since he isnt an actor I believe the tears that he often sheds during the reveals are genuine as well.

onewhippedpuppy 10-01-2013 11:02 AM

Yup, that bus is awesome.

rouxroux 10-01-2013 11:15 AM

OK, somebody nominate me and one of my cars. I'd love to give him the chance to "make a mess" out of it.

911boost 10-01-2013 11:21 AM

I too enjoy Gas Monkey, I'd drink a beer with Richard any day (and he seems to like beer).

Fantomworks is good also, they do it right.

Overhaulin is not bad, I enjoyed watching it for Courtney..... but yes the lok is somewhat similar, but thats his style, nothing wrong with that.

I'm going to supercharge my Mustang and when the stock 5.0 gives way I am actually thinking about sedning it to a smaller shop for a 5.0 Coyote installation.

Bill

JavaBrewer 01-21-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 7683480)
Nope. He took a nice, dry, original bus and made a mess out of it.

If anyone else had done something like this, we'd fun of them, but when Foose does it, it's somehow 'awesome'

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380635690.jpg

Old thread. I'm not an expert on older VW's but what part of that bus is a mess? The rims and tires might be a bit suspect (size) but for an untrained eye like mine their style appears stock.

J P Stein 01-21-2015 07:45 AM

Indeed, an old thread....old enough to see how these shows have developed.
I still like Gas Monkey......Ass Monkey. It is more more like your neighborhood hot rod shop than those other hi zoot lashups.

I do admire Foose and the work thoes guys kick out.......but the show's forumla is worn out and the predictable, "Foose look"is also. The "hangers on"attached to the show as talking heads leave me cold. Hollywood unreal people....

KevinTodd 01-21-2015 08:16 AM

I certainly admire some of the work that Foose does, but I admit that some of the uprades are way to "donk" for my taste...I surely wouldn't be that upset if they Overhauled my Carrera, though, as long as my insider had the right input.

I do miss AJ, though. The new girl, Arianny or whatever, seems like she's about as bright as a 20 watt bulb in the noonday sun. She can't even read the cue-cards at any more than what seems like a fourth-grade level. She's totally annoying.

Tobra 01-21-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7683096)

This is an awesome pic. You put a cool car together for your father, and I bet you did not put stupid big wheels on it either.

Pretty sure I ate at that restaurant behind him when I went to Portland to pick up my Miata.

techweenie 01-21-2015 09:14 AM

Haven't seen Overahaulin in years. Now that you guys have spilled the beans that AJ is gone, I'm less motivated to catch up.

Chatted up some of the cast and crew a while back at a Petersen Foose exhibit opening and the admiration for Chip is impressive. The folks who work with him both like and admire him. How often is that the backstory on a reality show?

A while later I met Chip - really nice guy and seemingly unaffected by his fame.

KNS 01-21-2015 09:17 AM

There was one episode where the spouse was asked by Foose which example of his exterior themes she thought that her husband would like for the car - they were typically Foose wild. She was really trying to stay more conservative, close to what you might find on the dealer's showroom (which is how I'd want it). You could see that Foose was a little frustrated by the lack of input in his direction.

Chip replied: "You have seen the show before, haven't you?"


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