USS Forrestal Sold For Scrap

[gshase]

My old carrier The Mighty USS Forrestal was sold for 1cent to a scrapyard, Makes me a little sad.......

USS Forrestal, the Navy's first supercarrier, to be scrapped in 1 cent deal | Fox News

[Jim Richards]

We used to refer to her as the USS Zippo back when I was in the Navy. She had some bad luck with fires, including one that happened when I was stationed on a tin can in Norfolk. No disrespect intended towards any that were injured or died while serving aboard her.

[Skytrooper]

I know how ya feel. My old ship U.S.S. Independence was cut up a few years ago IIRC

[scottbombedout]

I can't even imagine how they will scrap it. The amount of asbestos on those old ships is phenomenal.

[gshase]

I remember seeing the miles of duct work wrapped in asbestos and painted with a thick layer of white shiny paint with black stencil marks to ID each line.
I am thinking of flying my plane down to Brownsville and make a low pass over it, anyone up for a plane ride?

[flatbutt]

why not scrap all of those airplanes sitting out in the desert? that's a lot of aluminum and such.

[70SATMan]

The Big E is going to suffer the same fate. To much cutting required to get her reactors out.

I think it'd be cool to keep the superstructure intact and put it up somewhere as a mini museum.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

why not scrap all of those airplanes sitting out in the desert? that's a lot of aluminum and such.

Readily available spare parts with a paper trail.

[widgeon13]

Sad but I'm guessing someone is going to make a lot of money off that deal.

[KNS]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

why not scrap all of those airplanes sitting out in the desert? that's a lot of aluminum and such.

I had a tour of the place several years ago - fascinating place. Many of the planes remain in "flyable storage" condition. Either to be reactivated for our own military or sold to foreign air forces.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

I can't even imagine how they will scrap it. The amount of asbestos on those old ships is phenomenal.

About 60,000 tons
x 2,000lbs/ton
x Ongoing local rate of scrap steel
=Profit

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gross "Profit"
--------------------------------

-Inclusive associated labor costs....including overtime/benefits/medical/insurance/management
-Inclusive transportation
-EPA costs (and/or exemptions)
-Materials usage- such as equipment, electricity, and cutting gasses
-Other

-------------------------------
=net "Profit"
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[Joe Bob]

As long as they keep the scrap here in the US.....

[crustychief]

The costs of "hazardous material abatement" will negate most of the scrap profit. almost every deck is coated with asbestos as are most of the main engineering piping plus the older ships had TONS of PCBs . Better off and more profitable as a museum. Especially so given her history.

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by john70t

About 60,000 tons
x 2,000lbs/ton
x Ongoing local rate of scrap steel
=Profit

--------------------------------
gross "Profit"
--------------------------------

-Inclusive associated labor costs....including overtime/benefits/medical/insurance/management
-Inclusive transportation
-EPA costs (and/or exemptions)
-Materials usage- such as equipment, electricity, and cutting gasses
-Other

-------------------------------
=net "Profit"
-------------------------------

I get $150 a ton. Was told prices are going up tomorrow.

So about $9,000,000 as a base. There is also the copper and aluminum and any other recoverable materials (stainless, ect)

[Joe Bob]

Respectfully haz mat removal has evolved over the years. It's cheaper than you think. There is also no hurry on a demo only repairs. No overtime.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by crustychief

The costs of "hazardous material abatement" will negate most of the scrap profit. almost every deck is coated with asbestos as are most of the main engineering piping plus the older ships had TONS of PCBs . Better off and more profitable as a museum. Especially so given her history.

Or drained and sunk as a reef.
(Hard to type that.)

[Jim Richards]

Two of the three ships I served on have already been scrapped.

[Skytrooper]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

why not scrap all of those airplanes sitting out in the desert? that's a lot of aluminum and such.

Ah yes, The "boneyard" at Davis - Monthan Air Base in Tucson, AZ. A very cool tour if you are into aviation.

[widgeon13]

Having been a military brat in my youth and personally on active duty at a number of Army bases around the world, I have always been sad to go onto facilities that have closed. These places were always home and they will retain that imagine regardless of their current status. Lots of great memories. O Club, class six store, PX, BOQ's, Commissary and all had a slight smell of cosmoline.

I'm sure it exactly the same with a ship.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Skytrooper

Ah yes, The "boneyard" at Davis - Monthan Air Base in Tucson, AZ. A very cool tour if you are into aviation.

I just Googled it and you can see all the aircraft from the satellite view. See if this link works:
https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&q=davis+monthan+afb&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Davis%E2%80%93Monthan+Air+Force+Base&cid=0,0,16091582438073486904&ei=cfxwUs3ZOfbIsATV2YGoCg&ved=0CJ4BEPwS

If not, just Google Davis-Monthan Air Force Base and click on the Sat Image - then zoom in.

Yes I agree - very sad about the Forrestal - should be a museum somewhere!