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McLovin 11-05-2013 02:30 PM

Somewhere in Florida some FedEx pilot is rolling stop signs like crazy right now.

daepp 11-05-2013 02:43 PM

Poor Normy... Not!

BTW - I forwarded the story to the 50K watt news radio station in LA - they say they are going to broadcast it today!

GWN7 11-05-2013 03:42 PM

Seeing the warrant was invalid because they took him to another county to have him raped by the Dr's, did the deputies have any legal power or were they kidnapping him at that point?

Jeff Higgins 11-05-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 7740219)
It begs the question...

Why aren't law enforcement officials bonded and insured independently? The taxpayers need to be indemnified from this ridiculous behavior. If officers shared financial risk through insurance you can bet the Police Officers Association would do a better job of weeding out cops who have issues.

I have asked this same question for years. Most other professions must carry their own personal liability/malpractice insurance, and will be held personally, legally responsible for their misdeeds. Especially if those misdeeds fall outside the law or common practice within their profession.

It's high time cops - who are ostensibly "held to a higher standard" (just ask 'em) are held to the same standard of personal liability/responsibility as the rest of us. We should no longer go after the departments, but rather the cops - personally. That would put an end to much of this right now.

Crowbob 11-05-2013 05:46 PM

It sure seems to me like a border crossing when I pass thru the entry doors at Wal-Mart.

Easy mistake, especially if you're a cop.

Rick Lee 11-05-2013 08:30 PM

The judge will skate on sovereign immunity grounds. Cop will not miss a single paycheck. Doctor might be in a little more trouble. This is America now, where you are only ever rewarded for bad behavior and punished for good behavior.

Aurel 11-06-2013 03:04 AM

Imagine a 20 year old kid reading that story, getting upset, then taking an AK47, heading to an airport and shooting at all forms of law enforcement such as cops or TSA agents...Could this happen? Sure did. We live in a very sick society, which seems to be getting worse and worse as years go by. This story was sickening.

Chocaholic 11-06-2013 03:38 AM

Wait...he was allegedly "rude" to a law enforcement professional??? Well, that explains it.

daepp 11-06-2013 09:47 AM

From the actual suit:

"17. While writing the traffic citation, Defendant Rodriquez noted that Plaintiff Eckert was glancing towards his house, which was visible from the stop.
18. Defendant Rodriquez proceeded to question Plaintiff Eckert about his activities prior to the traffic stop.
19. Defendant Rodriquez saw Plaintiff’s partner approach the traffic stop on foot from Plaintiff's residence.
20. Defendant Rodriquez ordered her to leave.
21. Defendant Rodriquez issued Plaintiff a written warning for the windshield violation.
22. Defendant Rodriquez told Plaintiff Eckert he was free to leave.
23. As Plaintiff walked away, Defendant Rodriquez continued to ask Plaintiff more questions.
24. Plaintiff asked Defendant Rodriquez if he was free to leave, which Defendant Rodriquez contends that he found rude.
25. Defendant Rodriquez told Plaintiff he suspected Plaintiff of having illegal drugs in his car and proceeded to interrogate Plaintiff on the matter.
26. Plaintiff refused to engage in Defendant Rodriquez’s “conversation.”
27. Defendant Rodriquez then seized Plaintiff’s vehicle without probable
cause.
28. After Defendant Rodriquez seized Plaintiff’s vehicle, Defendant Rodriquez contacted
Defendant Green.
29. Defendant Green deployed his canine “LEO,” who, Defendant Green alleges, alerted to the presence of narcotics around Plaintiff’s vehicle. "

Tobra 11-06-2013 02:31 PM

Those cops won't have anything happen to them.

The doctor will get sanctioned and fined.

The lawyers will get rich.

allaircooled 11-06-2013 04:59 PM

And the plot thickens....ANOTHER Horrific Case of Police Abuse Emerges From New Mexico Involving the Same Police Department! (Video) | Americans Against the Tea Party

widebody911 11-06-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 7742027)
29. Defendant Green deployed his canine “LEO,” who, Defendant Green alleges, alerted to the presence of narcotics around Plaintiff’s vehicle. "

The dogs are basically trained to alert when the handler wants them to.

Gogar 11-06-2013 05:22 PM

22. Defendant Rodriquez told Plaintiff Eckert he was free to leave.
23. As Plaintiff walked away, Defendant Rodriquez continued to ask Plaintiff more questions.
24. Plaintiff asked Defendant Rodriquez if he was free to leave, which Defendant Rodriquez contends that he found rude.
25. Defendant Rodriquez told Plaintiff he suspected Plaintiff of having illegal drugs in his car and proceeded to interrogate Plaintiff on the matter.
26. Plaintiff refused to engage in Defendant Rodriquez’s “conversation.”



That's straight out of the playbook.

"You're free to go, have a nice night. Oh by the way, you don't have any illegal drugs in the car, do you? Mind if I check?"

"You said I was free to go. Am I free to go?"

(defendant seemed to be evading my question about the drugs. Cue the dog.)

GWN7 11-06-2013 09:00 PM

I'm wondering why the Federal Government isn't investigating this as a civil rights violation?

Rick Lee 11-07-2013 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 7742895)
That's straight out of the playbook.

"You're free to go, have a nice night. Oh by the way, you don't have any illegal drugs in the car, do you? Mind if I check?"

"You said I was free to go. Am I free to go?"

(defendant seemed to be evading my question about the drugs. Cue the dog.)

That's why you never consent to anything ever. They do this because you're considered to not be under duress if you've already been told you're free to go before they ask consent to search. Of course, I'd say decline consent no matter what they told me. But being told you're free to go means you keep your mouth shut and leave.

BlueSkyJaunte 11-07-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 7743173)
I'm wondering why the Federal Government isn't investigating this as a civil rights violation?

I would imagine the victim was white.

lane912 11-07-2013 07:56 AM

ALL people have civil rights- not just minoritys

GH85Carrera 11-07-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 7743732)
ALL people have civil rights- not just minoritys

Only in theory.

mikeatfhc 11-07-2013 08:41 AM

While reviewing this website and the additional information you posted I stumbled across this incident that happened in Florida... it should probably be put into another thread but I will post it here for those interested.

While I have nothing against authority per se... I am furious at the abuse of power:

LiveLeak.com - Arrested for photographing police stop -- first person view

The video is a bit long - this incident isn't as bad as what happened in NM, but very disturbing nonetheless.

daepp 11-07-2013 12:07 PM

His attorney has file a federal civil rights lawsuit.

BlueSkyJaunte 11-07-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeatfhc (Post 7743821)
LiveLeak.com - Arrested for photographing police stop -- first person view

The video is a bit long - this incident isn't as bad as what happened in NM, but very disturbing nonetheless.

I rest my case.

I especially enjoyed the part where the cop said, "Do not resist, resistance is futile." :rolleyes:

McLovin 11-07-2013 02:20 PM

He might not have been for the first few days afterwards, but he's sittin' pretty now.

Jim Richards 01-16-2014 11:25 AM

Man to get $1.6M for humiliating 3-enema ordeal after traffic stop

Moses 01-16-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 7859991)

Just seed money for the BIG payday from the hospital.

onewhippedpuppy 01-16-2014 11:35 AM

As much as I'm not a fan of punitive lawsuits............this seems totally justified.

Rick Lee 01-16-2014 11:52 AM

People need to lose jobs and go to jail over this.

Rikao4 01-16-2014 11:55 AM

well the Dr. is going before the board for sure..

Rika

GH85Carrera 01-16-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7860007)
As much as I'm not a fan of punitive lawsuits............this seems totally justified.

I agree. But if several people are not fired and a new written policy issued & used it is a waste of time and money.

The cops and the doctors all need to be fired. Credentials need to be revoked.

daepp 01-16-2014 12:19 PM

What about the judge? At a minimum his conduct and the procedures he used to grant a warrant must be reviewed publicly.

GH85Carrera 01-16-2014 12:21 PM

I agree.

gordner 01-16-2014 12:36 PM

I think multiple cavity searches for all should be a requirement.

I know that often police services will ask their members to endure a shot of mace or tear gas in order to better understand the impact when those measures are deployed, I think we should seriously consider requiring all those with the authority to demand a cavity search undergo a rigorously thourough one themselves with the same reasoning. Perhaps that might make them think twice before subjecting a citizen to th repeated pain, discomfort and humiliation that this fellow underwent.

70SATMan 01-16-2014 12:39 PM

Indeed. We'll call it "sensitivity training".

gordner 01-16-2014 12:48 PM

"tier three sesitivity training" is when they tickle your tonsils without involving your mouth....

sand_man 01-16-2014 01:06 PM

I was getting too angry to continue with the story. I just don't understand :confused::(:confused:

MBAtarga 01-16-2014 03:33 PM

I don't think the information on his previous criminal history and use of his buttocks as a drug hiding location had been known previously. That seems to make more sense of why the PO's were so persistent, although is still not an excuse for the wrong-doing.


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