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Seahawk 11-07-2013 12:43 PM
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No way I am languishing at the bottom of page.

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 7744194)
I love me some cats...I was just up at the barn feeding the barn cats and rubbing on 'em. They don't need much food, it is just my time to pet them. They are both neutered. We also have a house cat, almost 12 years old.

I love me some dogs, too. I have three. They are laying on my feet as I type.

But feral cats and dogs aren't pets. I treat them differently and I have shot them. I had a Jack Russel literally skinned in front of me by a pack of feral dogs.

Any feral cat that moves in gets shot. Dogs I judge by their demeanor first.

In whatever suburb you live in I know that is all barbaric.

Same as it ever was.

Dantilla 11-07-2013 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 7744081)
However, I have no idea why bow hunting is legal.
Safer for the hunters.

During rifle season, there are lots of yayhoos running around the woods after drinking the night before, and a small minority of them will shoot at "movement" which could be another hunter several hundred yards away.

Bow hunters won't usually shoot any farther than 20-30 yards. 50 yards is a very long shot with a bow.

Hard to mistake a hunter for a deer at 30 yards.

Jeff Higgins 11-07-2013 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 7744194)
I love me some cats...I was just up at the barn feeding the barn cats and rubbing on 'em. They don't need much food, it is just my time to pet them. They are both neutered. We also have a house cat, almost 12 years old.

I love me some dogs, too. I have three. They are laying on my feet as I type.

But feral cats and dogs aren't pets. I treat them differently and I have shot them. I had a Jack Russel literally skinned in front of me by a pack of feral dogs.

Any feral cat that moves in gets shot. Dogs I judge by their demeanor first.

In whatever suburb you live in I know that is all barbaric.

Same as it ever was.
And there you have it. Thanks, Paul.

dad911 11-07-2013 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 7741918)
I'm certainly no liberal and I'd fully support a ban of such a sort. In fact I think so-called "sport hunting" ought to be completely outlawed. It's sick, primitive and barbaric. If someone is hunting to survive that's one thing - unfortunate but it probably does happen and I sincerely doubt that's the case here.

I'd like to think we as a society have evolved past whoopin' it up over the "sport" of blowing some defenseless animal's brains out for absolutely no reason whatsoever. I've got news for the redneck/poop-kickers out there - it isn't a sport at all. Give the animals a way to shoot back - THEN you've got yourselves a "sport".
I don't hunt, but have no problem with others shooting bambi. Too many deer, there are hundreds in our neighborhood. I've had $10k plus of auto damage over the years, and a business acquaintance was killed in a car/deer accident.

Deer : Deer–vehicle collisions lead to about 200 human deaths and $1.1 billion in property damage every year

And two of my 3 children have had lyme disease (from deer tick)

Thin the herds.

targa911S 11-07-2013 04:31 PM
Around here we judge distance in dead deer. "Yeah Jim lives about 3 does and a dead buck from here"...they are everywhere.

sc_rufctr 11-07-2013 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 7742990)
Poor kitty my ass - domestic and feral cats are by far the most destructive predators on urban and suburban wildlife extant today. They kill for fun, just for the hell of it. They kill anything and everything smaller than themselves. Beyond their wanton killing, they are also destructive nuisances when allowed to run loose. If cat owners do not want their cats shot, they need to be responsible owners and leave them indoors. Otherwise they are fair game.

I would call this one hell of a lucky kitty - let's hope its second chance with a new owner will find it cared for a bit more responsibly. If not, I hope the next guy is a better shot.

And no, this has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. This is pest control, pure and simple. An entirely different matter.
Domestic cats mostly kill introduced species. Not indigenous wildlife. Sure they do get some of them but they mostly kill mice and introduced birds.

Jeff Higgins 11-07-2013 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7744635)
Domestic cats mostly kill introduced species. Not indigenous wildlife. Sure they do get some of them but they mostly kill mice and introduced birds.
I didn't know they could tell the difference.

Shirley, you can back up such a claim with some data - a study or two that would verify this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/science/that-cuddly-kitty-of-yours-is-a-killer.html?_r=0

From the NY Times article linked above (emphasis added):

In a report that scaled up local surveys and pilot studies to national dimensions, scientists from the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and the Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats in the United States — both the pet Fluffies that spend part of the day outdoors and the unnamed strays and ferals that never leave it — kill a median of 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals a year, most of them native mammals like shrews, chipmunks and voles rather than introduced pests like the Norway rat.

Crowbob 11-07-2013 05:56 PM
There's a reason some cultures eat cat.

widebody911 11-07-2013 06:45 PM
How much do cats actually kill? [Infographic] - The Oatmeal

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Nostril Cheese 11-07-2013 07:45 PM
And here's my wonderful heeler who loves everybody.

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bkreigsr 11-13-2013 03:03 AM
NOT photo-shopped
New Jersey deer with arrow in its head saved after nine-day stakeout - NY Daily News
Bill K

sc_rufctr 11-13-2013 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bkreigsr (Post 7753119)
Good news.

Gretch 11-13-2013 05:09 AM
The physics of that arrow flight had to be pretty interesting to have resulted in it stopping just beyond the exit wound.

A knowledgeable poster identified the arrow as a custom made one with an aluminum shaft and special fletching typically used on a re-curved or long bow. The broad head is an artisan one. With such a device the ballistics are estimated at 200 fps which is slow as compared to a crossbow or a compound bow.


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