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fastfredracing 12-01-2013 08:36 PM

Keep the volume down, I dropped the f bomb, I was a little excited.
First sputter - YouTube

fastfredracing 12-01-2013 09:17 PM

I'll give you a quick rundown of the history that I know of on this car. back in 2004-2006 ish, one of my customers and I took some money, and started to flip p cars on the side, sort of just for fun . We started buying every 911 we could get our hands on within a certain price point, and distance. This was back when there were tons of affordable p cars, you could still buy a decent T for 6k, and the early s bubble was just starting to inflate. Broken, or neglected SC's could be had for 5 k repeatably , and mid years were dirt cheap, we bought several for around 2k in various different states of disrepair. We also bought every 944 we could get our hands on within a certain price point, and distance.
We ended up doing pretty good at it for a side job. We parted out most of the 944's, and put a handful of the nicer ones back together. We only parted one 911, as we had already got it in boxes. It was an aubergine e, very very rusty.
We got very lucky on a few buys, we scored a 72 s sportomatic targa in viper green locally, it was an abandoned restoration . It was taken apart down to the tub, mostly stripped of paint, and all in boxes, some rust, but saveable. We sold it on e bay for HUGE money without doing anything more than inventorying everything , taking photos , and listing it correctly. It went to Hamburg.
A few days after the check cleared for that car, this 930 popped up in Ann Arbor Michigan. We shot up there on a Sunday, and made the guy an offer. We bought it slightly under market value, a good deal, but not a great deal. It ran when I bought it, I drove it around for 30 minutes before purchasing it. It seemed to run on only 5 cylinders, however under boost, it hit on all 6, and pulled like a freight train.It smoked some, and the trans would grind going into 2nd and 3rd, the suspension was all ratted out. and the outside , and inside were dirty, and somewhat neglected.
I suspected broken head studs, and made my offer to him accordingly . When I got it home, I pulled the valve covers, and found lots of broken studs, I think 2 cylinders had all 4 studs broken, and there were several more. I went to pull the plugs, and only 5 would come out. Someone cross threaded one in ( #2, you 930 guys all know , the hard one behind the waste gate signal line.
I never touched the car again, never put the valve covers back on. I pretty much just shelved it for a later rebuild. We then bought up some rental houses, I was raising my first son, and was not really ever ready financially , or time wise ready to take on a project of this size. I also have always owned this car with a partner, who cannot turn wrenches, so putting it back together was going to put our relationship into some un chartered territory. I just left it sit.
About two years ago, I was hot to purchase a 930 for myself. I made my partner several offers, but he did not want to sell out his share yet at that point. I bought my peru red 76 930 at this time
We are both sort of re-prioritizing our lives right now, and just decided, that with the market the way it is, and the place we are both at in our lives, ( We just had another baby, he just bought another house, and may be moving out of state), that it was just time to let it go.
We bought the car from a huge body builder guy. He was not a car guy, and part of his description of the car to us over the phone was that it needed a new radiator, that it was leaking coolant on to the floor. ( turbo oil feed line was leaking like a sieve). He was selling the car to help him open a gym/fitness center. He bought it from his high school wrestling coach, who purchased the car new. He said that he could remember how he would drool over the car when it was parked in the high school parking lot, and when it was offered to him later in life, that he just had to have it. Soon after purchasing it , it started to run bad, and smoke, also, his girlfriend in a fit of rage, rammed into the back of it, damaging the reflector. He got a quote to fix the motor, and about had a heart attack. That is when he decided to sell.

speeder 12-01-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan J (Post 7785093)
Fred as you are probably well aware these are now the car du jour and are pulling
huge money
I have a good one (original paint,super shape 40k miles) in my shop now that
was bought for just shy of 6 figures needing a motor ( Broken studs)
You're a good guy so if you're thinking about fixing and selling do your homework

The only completed sale I could find recently on an original early turbo was this for $59k, genuine 1-owner private party clean, low miles, etc.:

1976 930 Turbo Carrera Original Owner 1 of 500 Sold in U s IN1976 Low MI | eBay

Strong money w/o a doubt, but not $100k. :cool:

speeder 12-01-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7785123)
Holy sweetness, they are that much now? I have 51000+ on mine with a very hot motor and its insured for agreed value of 45k. Now, I gotta to up that policy.

I think that he was referring to early 930s. Your car is worth the same it ever was. :cool:

fastfredracing 12-02-2013 05:18 AM

Here it is running, looks and sounds more like one of those motor meister rebuild videos, but not bad for being put away wet and broken over 7 years ago. You can hear the cylinder head leakage in the video.

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drcoastline 12-02-2013 05:46 AM

Very cool. SmileWavy

Baz 12-02-2013 05:49 AM

Ha.....great video and great job Fred.

These 911 engines are pretty durable!

I've ran some that have sat for a few years and the feeling is always the same when they start up again....and the smoke coming out the tail pipes too!

Good luck and thanks for putting a smile on my face to start the week. :)

EDIT: And you're right - you can hear the popping sound of the cylinders from the broken studs...

Buckterrier 12-02-2013 03:33 PM

Very cool Fred. Good luck with it.

Dan J 12-02-2013 07:23 PM

Dennis check this result: Auction Results | Auctions
This was a recent sale it was a nice car but no repair history
The pre sale est was 75-80 but it blew right past that my client was willing to go 80
Bear in mind this was a predominantly American muscle car auction so not the best venue for the car


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