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LeeH 12-31-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 7831900)
So based on this description you could get a ticket for an inspection sticker!

If you click the link and read he full statute, there are exclusions for certain stickers - although AZ does not have inspection stickers.

I wondered how they define "Safety monitoring/driver feedback equipment" as there is an exclusion. However, my V1 was not in the specified acceptable location:

12. Safety monitoring equipment and driver feedback if mounted in either of the following locations:

(a) Immediately behind, slightly above or slightly below the rearview mirror.

(b) Where the rearview mirror would commonly be positioned if the motor vehicle is without a windshield mounted rearview mirror.

speeder 12-31-2013 08:26 AM

The bottom line is that the cop was correct and almost anything mounted on your windshield or hanging from your mirror is illegal due to some "obstructing view" statute. These laws are not enforced uniformly at all and it's not uncommon to see vehicles with all kinds of obstructions in the driver's line of sight.

I'm a little surprised that the cop fired-up his cruiser and went after you in a state where radar detectors are legal and you were not speeding. Where exactly did you have it mounted? Was it smack dab in the middle of your W/S? That is a big obstruction and deserves a ticket, not a warning. I've seen people with zero common sense mount them in the middle of a W/S in a 911 or other low car where it could completely swallow a pedestrian walking 10 feet in front of you.

When I ran a V-1 on road trips, I put it as close to the rearview mirror as possible with it still reading rearwards. This is the best tactical position and least obstructing + most invisible to cops and other motorists. You do not want to rub it in cops' faces that you have a detector as you go past them at 1mph under the limit when they know by your car and detector that you've been running much faster. That's asking for a BS stop.

Have a safe trip back!

BlueSkyJaunte 12-31-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gacook (Post 7832013)
I call BS. Either that, or he was being playful...like when I tell my son I'm gonna punch him in the nose. Obviously, I'm not going to punch a 6-year-old in the face...and he knows it.

Are you calling my wife a liar? Or me?

If you carry a gun (for a living or otherwise), you don't joke about shooting people. Would it be acceptable for an airline pilot to joke over the intercom about crashing the airplane he's flying?

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 7832028)
That's the story your wife told you? ;)

I have no reason to doubt her story. If ever there was a guileless innocent, it is she.

Don Ro 12-31-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7832218)
I have no reason to doubt her story. If ever there was a guileless innocent, it is she.

Just givin' you a little jazz. ;)
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Good word, guileless...without guile.
Not often used by many, but captures the state well.

GWN7 12-31-2013 09:43 AM

We have the same sort of law up here, except they use it to stop and ticket people with tinted windows. Anything other than factory they ticket, fine and order the tinting removed at once.

atcjorg 12-31-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 7832249)
Just givin' you a little jazz. ;)
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Good word, guileless...without guile.
Not often used by many, but captures the state well.

it's rarely used because there are so few people that it applies to unfortunately:(

speeder 12-31-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by atcjorg (Post 7832428)
it's rarely used because there are so few people that it applies to unfortunately:(

Truly the truth. I use it whenever it applies but it doesn't apply much. Not to be confused with just plain dumb, which I am not implying about anyone's spouse BTW. :cool:

gearya 12-31-2013 11:22 AM

Next time, point to the rear view mirror and say "Gosh, officer, what about that mirror?"

Most likely he was interested in running a check for illegal immigrants or for drugs on your car, or may just bored.

It's called a pre-text stop. He just wants to check you out, and it is illegal, but that won't stop them.

Rick Lee 12-31-2013 11:56 AM

I've been pulled over exactly once in AZ in six yrs. and have really deserved it many times. Beat that ticket in court though. Cop was a total robot with no personality.

We have another total BS law here that allows the cops to pull you over if your rear license plate frame in any way obscures the letters in ARIZONA on your plate. That's just about 100% of them.

GH85Carrera 12-31-2013 12:14 PM

The last time I was in California a cop walked up to the front of my car at a gas station. He pulled out his ticket book and I feel sure he was planning on writing a ticket for no front tag. As soon as he got to the rear he looked at the tag, looked at me, looked one more time at the tag and walked off. He never said a word to me.

jadewombat 12-31-2013 12:45 PM

They're dicks, sorry but they are. I had half dozen encounters with them when I lived in AZ for 12 years and they all had this "I know more than you (citizen)," attitude or "Do you know how fast you were going (dumbass)?"

I remember another time coming back from Sierra Vista to Tucson, broad daylight, getting into the city on I-10 a cop is off on the shoulder doing God knows what. I'm in the right lane doing exactly the speed limit. From a DEAD stop he pulls directly in front of me about 1/4 mile up ahead. Not going to slam on my brakes and there was no one in the left lane at that time. I gently graze over to the left lane and he's stomping on the gas now. Just at that time I'm getting close to him an 18-wheeler is suddenly on my ASS, I mean literally a foot behind me. I'm not going to speed to get ahead of this cop and I have a little more speed than him at this point but not much. I go past him slowly, get about 2 car lengths ahead then go in the right lane.

He pulls me over and starts screaming at me. Acting like I cut him off or something (which he did to me actually). I said WTF about that trucker that was riding my ass?? "Oh that, well, uhh, you have a right to blah, blah, blah."

bleucamaro 12-31-2013 01:03 PM

I think your stop had very little to do with you, or your actions, and a lot to do with statistics. When a lime green bubble donk with dealer tint gets pulled over for having dice on the mirror, then the cop gains PC to search the vehicle because it reeks of weed and more drugs are found, the cop can claim in court that he wasn’t profiling because he’s pulled over several other cars with windshield obstructions.

TimT 12-31-2013 01:37 PM

I wonder what the trooper would have to say, about how I mount my V1?

I got a nice bracket and hang the V1 just below the mirror in my WRX... additionally I mount my EZ Pass in the obscured area of the glass... The V1 presents a very small visual obstacle compared to the rear view mirror..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1388529444.jpg

speeder 12-31-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bleucamaro (Post 7832644)
I think your stop had very little to do with you, or your actions, and a lot to do with statistics. When a lime green bubble donk with dealer tint gets pulled over for having dice on the mirror, then the cop gains PC to search the vehicle because it reeks of weed and more drugs are found, the cop can claim in court that he wasn’t profiling because he’s pulled over several other cars with windshield obstructions.

I need to see a picture of what you're talking about. :D

Noah930 12-31-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TimT (Post 7832681)
I wonder what the trooper would have to say, about how I mount my V1?

I got a nice bracket and hang the V1 just below the mirror in my WRX... additionally I mount my EZ Pass in the obscured area of the glass... The V1 presents a very small visual obstacle compared to the rear view .

I don't know what the exact laws are in NY, but there was a specific location for EZ Pass transponder placement when I lived in MA, and I think most states prohibit hanging anything from a rear view mirror.

Noah930 12-31-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7832565)
The last time I was in California a cop walked up to the front of my car at a gas station. He pulled out his ticket book and I feel sure he was planning on writing a ticket for no front tag. As soon as he got to the rear he looked at the tag, looked at me, looked one more time at the tag and walked off. He never said a word to me.

LEO in CA will write tix for no front plate. Especially at LAX.

A LEO can pretty much harass you at will, but I figure why give him any more ammunition with which to give you a hard time?

Don Ro 12-31-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by noah930 (Post 7833025)
a leo can pretty much harass you at will, but i figure why give him any more ammunition with which to give you a hard time?

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Originally Posted by don ro (Post 7831964)
i walk straight because i hate getting tickets...and i hate traffic school!


BlueSkyJaunte 12-31-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7832436)
Truly the truth. I use it whenever it applies but it doesn't apply much. Not to be confused with just plain dumb, which I am not implying about anyone's spouse BTW. :cool:

:D

I've said it before, I'm a very lucky dude. Luckier than I deserve by far.

speeder 12-31-2013 06:12 PM

I'm sure that she is very lovely. Happy New Year to you and everyone else here!

GH85Carrera 12-31-2013 07:08 PM

Got pulled over on I-40... for having my V1 on the windshield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 7833025)
LEO in CA will write tix for no front plate. Especially at LAX.



A LEO can pretty much harass you at will, but I figure why give him any more ammunition with which to give you a hard time?


I live in Oklahoma. There is nothing any cop can do about me with no front tag. There is no front tag issued in Oklahoma.


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