Jack Baruth rips into Porsche yet again - 911S 2.7L

[kach22i]

This article below is from 2010, I guess he did it as a warm up for 2013, rather negative insight, but worth discussing perhaps?

Porsche’s Deadly Sin #4: Porsche 911S 2.7
By Jack Baruth on August 7, 2010
Porsche’s Deadly Sin #4: Porsche 911S 2.7 | The Truth About Cars


I did a search on this author, ripped on the Porsche Cayenne earlier in 2013, no offense taken - I guess.

Jack Bariuth *(the writer at TTAC) rips Porsche a new one..

Is his name pronounced "Barf"?

Just curious.

[Nostril Cheese]

This guy sounds like he's never been in a 911. He clearly doesnt know the 2.7

[onewhippedpuppy]

The guy is a total hack, though to be fair the internet has provided every moron on earth the opportunity to share his/her stupidity. He takes half truths and twists them to suit his poorly written rants. The man knows little about cars and even less about Porsche, and it's a damn shame that people reading the ironically titled "Truth About Cars" blog may believe the crap that he spews.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

This guy sounds like he's never been in a 911. He clearly doesnt know the 2.7

Thermal reactors cut the gas mileage into the teens on BMW's, and did the same to Porsche?

I've record 26 mph in mixed driving before.

+ 35 years old +100,000 miles and the magnesium has never "melted" either.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

The guy is a total hack...........

I agree, but give him points to be as entertaining as a stupid drunk.

And like a drunk I don't think he should be behind the wheel of a car, any car.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Sadly he's getting exactly what he wants - page visits. It doesn't matter why we visit, only that we visit and therefore increase the appeal of that trash website for advertisers.

[mossguy]

What does he say that is untrue?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by mossguy

What does he say that is untrue?

Highlighted in bold, for you:

"During the Seventies, Porsche was, as Katt Williams might say, in turmoil. Some very strong-willed men were fighting to determine the direction of what was then a very small firm. Ernst Fuhrmann, famous within the company for developing the quad-cam “Carrera” engine that made the 550 Spyder such a giant-killer, was running the show, and he wanted the 911 dead. His arguments were all quite valid: the 911 was not aging well, it was not selling well, and nobody had any idea whatsoever how to make a decade-old car conform to a raft of upcoming safety and emissions regulations.

Some of Porsche’s more paranoid fans believe that Fuhrmann all but sabotaged the 1974 Porsche 911 and its 2.7L engine. The likely truth is far more pathetic. At the time, Porsche’s engineering staff was very small, and they had three major jobs in front of them: developing the all-new 928, seeing the 924 through its teething issues, and uprating the performance of the 911 to meet market needs. Surely the last of these three jobs simply received inadequate attention.

No matter what the reason, when the surprisingly handsome 1974 911 debuted, complete with the mandatory impact bumpers for the US market, it was a complete and utter disaster. Not for the first time, and not for the last, Porsche had built a car that would grenade its engine within 50,000 miles.

This was meant to be a stopgap car, a last hurrah until the 928 could arrive and redefine Porsche as a product and a company. The basic platform was already twelve years old and had undergone just one major revision — a lengthening of the wheelbase and mild suspension re-spec designed to keep the cars from killing their owners in the rain. The original 2.0L six had been expanded to 2.4L in a failed attempt to keep up with cars like the outrageously rapid Jaguar E-Type and fuel-injected Corvette Stingray. Then, as now, Porsche always sold about the slowest sports car any given amount of money could buy, at least when straight-line speed was the measurement.

The 2.4 wasn’t really fast enough, but the impending American emissions standards threatened to slow the 911 down to the point that ordinary Cadillacs would smoke its droopy tail. The solution: to take the 2.7-liter engine developed for the Carrera RS, detune it a bit, and make it standard across the board. As it debuted in 1974, the engine had issues. The magnesium cases warped, the head studs pulled out, and all of this often happened within a few years of purchase. The valve guides didn’t last 50,000 miles, which was a problem that, in some form or another, would dog Porsche until the very last 993 left the factory.

In 1975, Porsche added a “thermal reactor” to meet US emissions standards. At the time, these were only added to US-bound cars; Porsche did not adapt its forward-thinking “world emissions strategy” until much later. The thermal reactor was a horrible, horrible approach to meeting the standards. I don’t know exactly how it works, but to be fair, neither did anybody at Porsche.

When applied to BMWs, the thermal reactor dropped mileage to the teens and cut power to the bone. When added to a Porsche, it did all of the above… but because it was cramped in the back of an air-cooled car, it also accelerated all of the 2.7L’s problems. Hello there, first-year engine failure! Don’t forget that the Porsche warranty of the day was basically one years on defective parts — and neither the dealers nor Porsche were eager to buy new engines for customers. A lot of people ended up with very expensive paperweights. At the time, a new 911 cost about four times as much as an Oldsmobile sedan.

Something had to be done, and that “something” was a move to aluminum engine cases as used in the 930 Turbo. This allowed a bump to 3.0L displacement. The resulting car was the 911 Super Carrera, or “911SC”, which debuted in 1978. That car had a whole different set of mechanical issues, one of which — defective chain tensioners — could also cause a complete engine failure, but it was far more reliable than the guaranteed-to-melt 2.7L.

If you see a 911 2.7 on the road today, chances are it’s been all squared away, either through a variety of innovative fixes or the simple installation of a 3.0. Many of these cars now provide very useful service to their owners. At the time, however, they turned a lot of people away from Porsche permanently. Porsche Cars North America’s arrogant attitude, something that continues to the present day, didn’t help matters.

I wish I could come up with a legitimate reason for Porsche’s decision to leave the 2.7L in production for three full years after they first saw problems, but if anything that represents fast service by Porsche standards. The water-cooled grenade stayed in service for eleven years, you know.

Not that anybody in Stuttgart was all that concerned about the 911′s downward spiral. It was an old car and anybody stupid enough not to wait for the far-superior 928 got what they deserved. Fuhrmann expected that 911 production would terminate some time in the early Eighties, possibly as early as 1980.

Nobody could predict that the 928 would turn out to be an expensive, troublesome boondoggle and that the air-cooled 911, far from being killed around its eighteenth birthday, would in fact go on to live a full thirty-six years in production. In that second lifetime, 911 owners would learn about a whole new range of maladies, and they would also learn that some things never change. Porsche didn’t really care then about long-term customer satisfaction, and they don’t really care now. Still, if you can get behind the wheel of a ’75 911S and hear that magic “whoooooooOOOOOOOOP” as the mill catapults you squarely out of your late apex, perhaps you won’t care about that, either."

The guy is an idiot. He knows jack **** about cars. Watch his youtube video of his garage band. He sucks badly at that, too.

JR

[gtc]

I remember when TTAC was created... it made Autoblog look good.

[mossguy]

Javadog- Thanks!

[onewhippedpuppy]

Read JR's copy/paste, don't give that tool the satisfaction of your click.