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gearya 01-08-2014 10:53 AM

Why are Engineers so arrogant?
 
We've got a guy here in OT, a "systems engineer" (AND farmer!!) in PARF and good ol' sammy who I think is an engineer.

They all act crazy and think they know everything. What is up with that? It's only a 4 year degree.

Jim Richards 01-08-2014 10:57 AM

At some schools it's closer to a 5 year degree...quite a few more credits required to graduate. I'm an engineering manager, and formerly was an R&D engineer and a systems engineer. I have a Masters degree in Engineering, too. Should I say something arrogant to perpetuate the stereotype you have embraced? Nah.

onewhippedpuppy 01-08-2014 10:58 AM

Also most likely to be terrorists: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/magazine/12FOB-IdeaLab-t.html?_r=0

Ever read Dilbert? Personally I think it's from lack of sex, we were busy studying while the crazy business majors were out partying. And mine was a five year major, so there.

Danimal16 01-08-2014 11:05 AM

Go get an engineering degree and you can answer your own question.

VaSteve 01-08-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearya (Post 7846141)

they all act crazy and think they know everything. What is up with that? It's only a 4 year degree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim richards (Post 7846150)
at some schools it's closer to a 5 year degree...quite a few more credits required to graduate.

:-)

recycled sixtie 01-08-2014 11:13 AM

Good question. The first and last person I have blocked on Facebook is an engineer.
I have no time for arrogance, ignorance etc etc. If I want to witness this I go on Parf. Life is too short for ignorance etc but thanks for designing some great cars!

This does not mean that all engineers are insufferable fools. Just some....

t-tom 01-08-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearya (Post 7846141)
We've got a guy here in OT, a "systems engineer" (AND farmer!!) in PARF and good ol' sammy who I think is an engineer.

They all act crazy and think they know everything. What is up with that? It's only a 4 year degree.

Seems like a pretty arrogant question to me.

Iciclehead 01-08-2014 11:23 AM

I work with engineers extensively and have somehow sired two of them.....

Their mindset is a perverse combination of personal aptitudes needed to be a good engineer (mathematical skills, high sense of the tangible, fact oriented etc) and the education. Engineering education starts from the place that if they don't do their job right, people die....and the engineer by virtue of their stamp is personally accountable. There is also a huge amount of bonding in engineering (read: rampant alcoholism and co-dependent relationships) and embarking on no end of mischief (in my son's case building a potato cannon capable of shooting several hundred metres and then assaulting the nearby military college with it).

Result of this perverse melange is a group of people who believe in their own god-like powers, who bond more tightly than a bunch of Muslims in a pork factory and who presume everyone else is "lesser".....otherwise they too would have become engineers.

Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

BReif61 01-08-2014 11:25 AM

Perhaps it's all the self-confidence that isn't projected in person crammed into an internet persona that then becomes over-confident.

BReif61 01-08-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Iciclehead (Post 7846205)
Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

I can personally vouch for this. An "at-work" 10 is probably a good solid 5 in the wild.

Nostril Cheese 01-08-2014 11:32 AM

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Jim Richards 01-08-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iciclehead (Post 7846205)
I work with engineers extensively and have somehow sired two of them.....

Their mindset is a perverse combination of personal aptitudes needed to be a good engineer (mathematical skills, high sense of the tangible, fact oriented etc) and the education. Engineering education starts from the place that if they don't do their job right, people die....and the engineer by virtue of their stamp is personally accountable. There is also a huge amount of bonding in engineering (read: rampant alcoholism and co-dependent relationships) and embarking on no end of mischief (in my son's case building a potato cannon capable of shooting several hundred metres and then assaulting the nearby military college with it).

Result of this perverse melange is a group of people who believe in their own god-like powers, who bond more tightly than a bunch of Muslims in a pork factory and who presume everyone else is "lesser".....otherwise they too would have become engineers.

Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

Your notions are a bit antiquated. There are more and more engineering women in the workplace. In my department, we're at about 40% women.

You are right about one thing, female engineers are irresistible. My wife is an engineer. :)

By the way, our offspring is an MD. :D

Nostril Cheese 01-08-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iciclehead (Post 7846205)
I work with engineers extensively and have somehow sired two of them.....

Their mindset is a perverse combination of personal aptitudes needed to be a good engineer (mathematical skills, high sense of the tangible, fact oriented etc) and the education. Engineering education starts from the place that if they don't do their job right, people die....and the engineer by virtue of their stamp is personally accountable. There is also a huge amount of bonding in engineering (read: rampant alcoholism and co-dependent relationships) and embarking on no end of mischief (in my son's case building a potato cannon capable of shooting several hundred metres and then assaulting the nearby military college with it).

Result of this perverse melange is a group of people who believe in their own god-like powers, who bond more tightly than a bunch of Muslims in a pork factory and who presume everyone else is "lesser".....otherwise they too would have become engineers.

Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

Good lord, this is true...

cockerpunk 01-08-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iciclehead (Post 7846205)
I work with engineers extensively and have somehow sired two of them.....

Their mindset is a perverse combination of personal aptitudes needed to be a good engineer (mathematical skills, high sense of the tangible, fact oriented etc) and the education. Engineering education starts from the place that if they don't do their job right, people die....and the engineer by virtue of their stamp is personally accountable. There is also a huge amount of bonding in engineering (read: rampant alcoholism and co-dependent relationships) and embarking on no end of mischief (in my son's case building a potato cannon capable of shooting several hundred metres and then assaulting the nearby military college with it).

Result of this perverse melange is a group of people who believe in their own god-like powers, who bond more tightly than a bunch of Muslims in a pork factory and who presume everyone else is "lesser".....otherwise they too would have become engineers.

Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

hahaha, well written, and exactly right on.

the only solution to turning in a test in which at no point did you understand any of the problems, and wrote down only crazyness that no one could follow for 45 mintues, is a whole 1.75 of vodka with friends who did exactly the same that afternoon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 7846229)
Your notions are a bit antiquated. There are more and more engineering women in the workplace. In my department, we're at about 40% women.

You are right about one thing, female engineers are irresistible. My wife is an engineer. :)

By the way, our offspring is an MD. :D

female engineers are irresistible, but unfortunately, i typically find them too logical and rational. almost like the type of woman who is attracted to engineering, is that really really rational and logical one, to a fault.

obviously your millage my vary. that just my experience with them, i've dated 3.




and to the topic at hand, i got some good advice from an older engineer once, he said "to be a good engineer, you have to be the smartest guy in the room, but to be a great engineer, you have make sure no one knows that you are the smartest in the room."

onewhippedpuppy 01-08-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iciclehead (Post 7846205)
I work with engineers extensively and have somehow sired two of them.....

Their mindset is a perverse combination of personal aptitudes needed to be a good engineer (mathematical skills, high sense of the tangible, fact oriented etc) and the education. Engineering education starts from the place that if they don't do their job right, people die....and the engineer by virtue of their stamp is personally accountable. There is also a huge amount of bonding in engineering (read: rampant alcoholism and co-dependent relationships) and embarking on no end of mischief (in my son's case building a potato cannon capable of shooting several hundred metres and then assaulting the nearby military college with it).

Result of this perverse melange is a group of people who believe in their own god-like powers, who bond more tightly than a bunch of Muslims in a pork factory and who presume everyone else is "lesser".....otherwise they too would have become engineers.

Thankfully there are relatively few female engineers to mate with, otherwise the infestation of engineers would eventually overrun human kind. It also explains why female engineers become irresistible to male engineers at the age of consent and remain that way until about thirty minutes after their clinical death.

Longer if it's a warm day.

Dennis

I think we can end the thread now.:cool:

BTW, if you want to talk alcoholism, try working on a team comprised of engineers and fighter pilots. Good times......

Eric 951 01-08-2014 11:42 AM

engineers....pshaw.

You ever deal with a conductor? Think they are so special with their fancy hat and ticket punch.

And don't get me started on those lantern-swinging brakemen.

RWebb 01-08-2014 11:42 AM

My undergraduate degrees were at an engineering school. While the lack of sex thing could be part of it (we had only 3 women in the freshman class, and none older, so I immediately walked north to hang out in the pre-med area...) I think a lot of it is that it is requires some talents that most people do not have. OTOH, musicians have the same thing, but are they arrogant?

and, BTW, try hanging out with a bunch of fighter pilots sometime

RWebb 01-08-2014 11:44 AM

wow - a trifecta of simultaneity re musicians/fighter pilots! who engineered that?

recycled sixtie 01-08-2014 11:56 AM

I would think that engineers are hired for their engineering design ability and not personality. That is why you have salesmen selling Porsche cars. If you had an engineer selling Porsche cars the car would never leave the lot as he/she would be extolling the virtues of its design.

It takes all kinds.....:)

t-tom 01-08-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric 951 (Post 7846250)
engineers....pshaw.

You ever deal with a conductor? Think they are so special with their fancy hat and ticket punch.

And don't get me started on those lantern-swinging brakemen.

Your not a "Hog Head" are ya?


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