As far as rules I don't have any.... I do what I want as I want and if whomever has issue .. I didn't ask them to input on my freedom.
When I first became single I fell for the absolute worst using,heartbreaking, souless (I'll stop there) and 5yrs later I'm still paying off debts from that time period. Point is at the time I really didn't understand the concept of single and what it can be.
Lessons? don't be afraid to take your time, if you and as well she are worth it time is all the better. If someone is in a hurry or is dating only to be married or live with someone I'll bounce in moments.
I should not be taken as cold or self centered by the previous... in fact the complete opposite but will admit to being somewhat guarded. That's a good thing with the lack of truth that seems to fill the single ranks.
The woman I current am totally enjoying is just truly sweet,,,, we are not rushing anything and after a month and a half I love getting texts from her and although she needs her eyes checked she thinks I'm handsome and I have no idea of what she's doing with me :) of course other than being treated well, always opening doors, and the gentleman my mother made sure I grew up to be.

He tol' me and I didn't listen.

Pure Gold!!! The anti-pelican anti-intellectual post of the thread!

Well, I think our work is done here..........:D

Ha, that's pretty funny. Ask your dearly beloved how many (including the ones that don't count) and times it by three.

She will have come across a lot of sweeter talkers than you boys.

Push, who are you?

+1. Many are self-centered pigs with a price- they are as horny as most guys and will take what they can take no questions asked, no ethics or honor involved. The truth is what they tell you it is. The trick is not having false illusions.

Being a bit of a domesticated pig yourself keeps 'em honest.

rjp

Randy P, KaleCoAuto.com, Your home for the rare, unusual, and hard to find auto parts. has all those unobtainable products.

However, they don't sell drive and mojo and fortitude.
Those still need to be replenished on a daily basis after the courtship phase dissipates into reality, and one discovers Genghis Khan sleeps on the other side of the bed.

I've heard women 'count gifts' numerically, not by total valuation.
As in: Making coffee every morning and vacuuming the house weekly is psychologically more important than buying her a new car.

Bill, really?

.... But it have seen some fine women fall for players... My cousin who would have to be one of the worst players I've ever seen bagged a beautiful wife 12 years his junior. She got lots of flowers. After 8 years of marriage they've just had their third child. Ok so he's working hard with his own business but has overextended himself to the point that he had to ask his elderly father for $50,000 just to keep his head above water.
BIG Mortgage, leased BMW etc etc.

Meanwhile the bills are pilling up and the beautiful wife is looking bewildered.
He's on borrowed time at best and he's 42 with 3kids under 8 so if it all goes bad it will really go bad....

The things we do for that little triangle... :rolleyes:

I spend the money on the Hermes.
For my wife.

Men and women aren't that different. For every stupid man there is a stupid woman. For every shallow woman, there is a shallow man. Etc.

Now, for every smart man, there's a smart woman...the problem for both sexes is getting through all of the stupidity and finding that mate that fits.

YMMV.

I think that's true. Women watch a man actions.

not a complete solution, however:

1) Find a woman who LOVES being a woman. See what she likes about herself. how she sees herself, what she wants to be and if that image suits what you are looking for, you might be on to the right target.

2) Watch how she treats her family. Is she generous, loyal, loving, forgiving? Does the whole family love her? do they laugh and have a great time with each other whenever they are together? That tells you a lot about her character and the conditions of her upbringing. Such familial behavior is a learned condition and it does not go away as long as it continues to be nurtured.

Any other advice is secondary and even superficial. And while you are doing this research....... OBEY BAZ's rules!!!!!!!!!!

Damn. I vacuum the house weekly, bought her a new car last Thursday, but don't make the coffee every morning. I'm up a creek.:D

a true alfa doesn't give a ****.

you read online a lot about alfa and beta, and for the most part, its pretty ok. as in, be confident etc etc, and that works well. the problem is when you take the alfa thing too far, and its starts being a beta thing of its own. the true definition of a beta is changing ones self in order to try and attract women, and even if an alfa is conning his way into bed with women with slick lines and negging and such, thats still changing himself to sleep with women. that is beta.

a true alfa doesn't give a ****. no ****s. this one doesn't want to sleep with you tonight ... who cares? this one doesn't like you because you cracked such and such joke ... who cares?

the irony being, that as soon as you stop caring about these things, women come out of the woodwork for you.

A real man is a winner...he is competitive and accustomed to winning. He picks out the woman he wants and wins her and keeps her...

It doesn't matter is every man she meets wants her (either before of after he lands her)...she will not stray. He has what she needs.

He is smart enough to know what she wants and makes sure it happens...whether it is making her a construction paper heart for Valentines Day or buying her the Hope Diamond.

Any of you wieners who can't make your woman's dreams come true...you are not trying hard enough...and simply don't deserve her.

The mysterious lack of P-whipped men posting is simply amazing and against all demographics and odds.

You are all studs.:D

From what I've seen in life it's 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 as far as relationships go.

1/3 male dominated

1/3 female dominated

1/3 balanced/shared equal time dominant/submissive

In general if a relationship is too one sided, I see infidelity. The dominant one cheats because they can (power thing), the submissive one cheats in rebellion to being dominated.

Often these things happen despite either side lacking a clue as to how to share and jointly manage the relationship. Too much me/me/me, not enough us/us/us.

what's an alfa?

Bah, they're out of stock. Still haven't heard from Pelican- they can't seem to get 'em either.

rjp

Just like any other piece of machinery...if you can't make the motor purr...you just are not maintaining it properly.

She had 3 kids in her 20s?
Who does that?
Was she a foreign internet bride?

Unreliable Italian car.

Ohly littel engish but veel hav u tree kitz.

Jeremy Clarkson says everybody should own one.

Yea, and he HATES Porsches. I should value his opinion? :cool:

I hang around a chick from Thailand and her smokin hot friend from Vietnam (possibly one of the hottest chicks I know) now and then-

They're Americanized all right- what's really funny is when they're hammered and talking **** they do the "Full Metal Jacket" thing.

In Thai accent- "YOU TELL HIM - U NO LOVE HIM LONG TIME!"

First time I that I fell out of my chair.

rjp

(PS lots of Asian girls do that routine- joking around- it's hilarious)

Well did you just write down the past year for me!

I decided that I needed to take a more Me, and not you, approach to life. Don't like me? F you. I am not going to lose any sleep over it.

Talk about LIBERATING. Buuuut a lot of people can take it as me being a complete and total douche.

I really am not. I have the best friends a man can ask for. I just don't put up with petty BS anymore.

I have a Mainland Chinese cousin who is a US citizen and made a ton of money in the subprime boom. He brought his wife over from China once he started really earning. She couldn't drive. They had two kids and she still needed him to drive them everywhere. The first time I met her, I knew he had married way, way out of his league and that marriage was doomed. Geezus, she was hot. Sure enough, it took him a while to get back on his feet after the real estate bubble collapsed, she learned to drive and she took off.

My wife just made me lunch (organic salad with grilled chicken breast), and drove 12.5 miles to deliver it to me at the front door of my office.

I don't know WTF you guys are doing, but you're doing it wrong. :D

When she showed up did you pretend to ignore her, tell her that her salad tastes like crap, then tell her to go eff-herself? If not, per the last four pages you've been doing it all wrong.:cool:

Hahahaha. That was worth a laugh and a half.

That's me 100%. I could care less what people think of me, and I have nothing to prove. I know I come across as a cocky *********, but I really don't care. I am extremely respectful of others and very polite. I just choose to not suck up to *anyone*. My wife loves it and validates me all the time :)

If you even think you know the answer, you are just kidding yourself. Every woman, and every woman's brain, are a little bit different, just like various parts of their bodies. :) Every woman must be analyzed and approached as a separate study. That's the fun of it. And yes, sometimes it is more work that the compensation you get.

Geez Louise, what are we talking about....being the best hog caller in the sty?

I'd make the case the the female of our species is in fact a different and incompatible species and frankly not worth the effort.

...I've just given up on them and their *^*&^(*&t.

Dennis

Surely you can't be this obtuse. Talk about missing the forest for trees. Thankfully, most chumps are supplicating white knights like this. Makes it so easy for the rest of us.

Wrong. No woman wants a desperate supplicating wimp. Not one. They are all identical in this regard.

.....unless he's a lottery winner or trust fund baby. Then she just cheats on him.

rjp

a small coupe that is superior to a 2002

No it's not -it's a car that doesn't give a **** what you think of it.

That's one smart car.

rjp

ah, so that's what the kids are calling it these days...