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The Italian justice system is more about "face" than actual justice. Some one has to pay - and it doesn't matter if its the right some one or not, just so long as they can paint the blame over their face its all good. :mad: This also leads to very crazy situations - where a court in one town would find an out of towner guilty - to take the blame off their town, but when it gets to a higher court that isn't related to the town, he is then not guilty... If you're from outside the country - you're really really really screwed on all fronts. |
Maybe Italy operates on a "best two outta three" justice system?
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You probably mean "Not Guilty", the correct declaration, which is a lot different than 'innocent'. 'Not Guilty' means only that 'Guilty' was not proven. It does not mean that she was necessarily 'innocent'. An important legal point. |
Rudy Guede did the rape murder
his DNA [real DNA] found and bloody prints convicted knox and her BF were not there cops framed her |
"Hi, I'm Amanda Knox for Olive Garden...if you can't actually visit Italy..." Dennis Miller
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Yes, it is an important point that I am well aware of. However, I was speaking of the Italian courts, and they indeed declared her "factually innocent" (actually, the judges wrote there was a "material non-existence" of evidence to support the guilty verdicts. No facts to support the verdict of guilty so, factually innocent) which is different than acquittal. I am aware of the differences in the terms and I equated the two in an attempt to simplify things for the sake of another poster. And factual innocence does exist in U.S. law. Google Michael Morton. “The record contains evidence that a public official may have committed serious misconduct, and that this misconduct may have contributed to the wrongful conviction and lengthy incarceration of … Michael Morton, now known to be factually innocent,” This was the opinion written by the Bexar County state district Judge Sid Harle, who presided over Morton’s exoneration. |
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Well worth the read if one is truly interested. |
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Why did the Italian police pursue Amanda and Raffaele Sollecito? From the other thread... Quote:
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i think she not only did it, but instigated it.
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That's right, because no one has ever been coerced into a confession before..
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1. Typed out by the police. 2. Made up of suggested scenarios the police wanted Knox to imagine. 3. Carried out when she was interrogated as a witness, not a suspect. 4. Carried out over a period of 50 hours. 5. Carried out with the assistance of 12 different police interrogators. 6. Carried out without allowing Knox a lawyer. 7. Carried out in Italian without the benefit of a translator. 8. Made without the interrogation being recorded, as required by Italian law. 9. Never a statement that she "did it", only that she was there. 10. Completely recanted by Knox shortly after signing. 11. Absolutely illegal under Italian law. 12. Thrown out by the Italian courts. 13. Never admitted into evidence at her criminal trial. But, it was widely published in the Italian and British press and was used in the liable trial filed by Patrik Lamumba so the public got a large dose of non-evidence. |
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I'm not surprised by the "confession". My Italian teacher in highschool was on a train during a trip to Italy one summer. Someone threw a rock at the window and shattered it blowing glass all around the cabin. The officials rushed in and started making everyone sign papers before they even start cleaning up. Since he knew Italian, he said the paper stated something like they don't hold anyone or any entity in Italy responsible for the "accident" and wouldn't pursue any legal proceedings, etc. He said when he refused to sign it, they started yelling at him he had to or he couldn't leave the train, etc. He wasn't hurt too bad so he just did and left.
btw, I can't find anywhere, did they ask the drifter who was also convicted if Knox and the bf were there and what happened? |
Yeah, he said he didn't do it, they did. He was taking a crap in the bathroom, listening to his ipod when the murders took place. He also said he didn't have sex with her, although that's been proven. He claims to have tried to help her, although he neglected to call the police and instead went dancing at a club for the rest of the night.
Real credible guy... That series of articles by the FBI is worth reading. Hard to belive they prsecuted that case, with what lack of any evidence they had. I've also heard that in the retrial, they retested the DNA on the "murder weapon" and found it was not from the victim, yet they convicted them again, in spite of that small problem. The judge also spoke out and said he thought the boyfriend should have tried to put all of the blame on Knox, to improve his own chances for an aquittal. What a guy... I'm starting to lose interest in going back to Italy for a vacation, any time soon. JR |
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And now this... Judge Alessandro Nencini Denies Impropriety Over Knox Trial Comments
Florence Judge Alessandro Nencini, who presided over a judicial panel in the murder trial of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, has been accused of impropriety over comments he made to the media about the case. The Associated Press reports defense lawyers for Sollecito called Nencini’s comments to the media about the defense strategy a “serious” breach and said they will request disciplinary action from the magistrate’s governing body, the Judicial Ministry, and Italy’s supreme Court of Casssation. Members of the magistrate’s governing body said Nencini violated the secrecy of deliberations and made comments that suggest “partiality.” They will request an inquiry. |
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BTW: Do they still turn a blind eye to packs of gypsies pickpocketing and twenty something Italian males who get away with mauling young American girls in public? Serious question. |
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