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rick-l 02-02-2014 06:32 PM

Is there such a thing as a metric Phillips bit?
 
0 seemed too small and #1 too big. Someone who I thought should know said it was metric. I did a search and I did find a reference on a RC forum but that is it.

porwolf 02-02-2014 06:40 PM

Here is some description of various screw drives:

List of screw drives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

theFONZ 02-02-2014 06:48 PM

There are Japanese bits called JIS, IIRC. They look similar to Phillips, but internal design is slightly different.

ETA: there are also posidrive bits, but they are used more in Europe.

stomachmonkey 02-02-2014 07:17 PM

I stumbled upon a 3.5 mm fastener last year and found I had a 3.5 box that was in a set I've had for decades but never used, didn't even know I had it.

sc_rufctr 02-02-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 7889757)
0 seemed too small and #1 too big. Someone who I thought should know said it was metric. I did a search and I did find a reference on a RC forum but that is it.

Check the Wiki link... I bet it's a Pozidrive.

look 171 02-02-2014 11:02 PM

Pozidrive or the stupid Phillips head with a square in the middle. A combination drive that allow a sq drive to be use to prevent cam-out. A Phillips driver will work, bur slips often. I still think its Pozidrive.

rick-l 02-03-2014 08:05 AM

it is not a pozidriv or even that French drive in the wiki link. I can't find any reference to anything outside the range of #000 to #4.

It is a small screw with Locktite that is difficult to remove. A new #1 bit will get it out. I think the guy just made the metric bit part up.

theFONZ 02-03-2014 08:14 AM

Look up JIS. A Phillips will usually fit a JIS style screw, but it's better to get the bits from some of the Japanese toolmakers.

VINMAN 02-03-2014 09:28 AM

Metric Phillips? Would that be a "Philippe" bit....

look 171 02-03-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 7890563)
Metric Phillips? Would that be a "Philippe" bit....

HAHHAHAHAH. That's funny.

Tobra 02-03-2014 10:06 AM

If it has loctite on it, can you heat it up, or would that damage the piece"

sc_rufctr 02-03-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 7890404)
it is not a pozidriv or even that French drive in the wiki link. I can't find any reference to anything outside the range of #000 to #4.

It is a small screw with Locktite that is difficult to remove. A new #1 bit will get it out. I think the guy just made the metric bit part up.

Can you take a photo of the head with something next to it like a coin?

This has me very curious. I'm very fussy about screw heads and I always use the correct non worn screwdriver tips to remove them. Generally tips/screwdrivers by Snapon or Starrett are the best fitting.
My ultimate goal is to remove and reinstall them without marking them.

(One of my hobbies is repairing old film cameras and lenses)

1990C4S 02-03-2014 05:34 PM

Heat the head with a soldering iron.

fingpilot 02-03-2014 05:42 PM

I sold a Metric Crescent once. To a girl that was looking for one.

cashflyer 02-03-2014 05:56 PM

Frearson?

GWN7 02-03-2014 07:09 PM

Sounds like the JIS. is what I found on a fan this summer. Tried several different bits to undo them. Ended up using a BFH to smash it to pieces. BFH's work best on all screws types. :)

rick-l 02-03-2014 08:57 PM

I looked at them again compared to another Phillips along with a Google search and I bet it is a Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) Screw. How it ended up here is another question but the thing does have its origin in the Pacific rim.

look 171 02-03-2014 09:29 PM

The Phillips heads are different on some screws. If you look at the bit, some are more angular and some not so much. A new bit will cam out on you if use with different Phillips slots. The slot on a drywall screw and the typical sheet metal screw are slightly different. Love to see a pic because it is bugging the hell out of me not knowing what it is?

look 171 02-03-2014 09:31 PM

I have used these thing before with some success. How big is this screw? Sears.com


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