Chump Car, Part 2
 

I had started a thread a few months ago relative to a Chump Car effort I was involved in, but abandoned it when it turned into unfounded accusations of cheating, etc.. The race was this past weekend (at 14-hour enduro at Road Atlanta) and rather than add on to that past thread, I'll just post this one.

Tiny bit of back story: two guys I work with and two of their friends decided to build a race vehicle (a 1995 S-10 pickup truck) for the Chump Car series. The two guys I didn't know bailed and so the guys I work with asked me to simply drive with them since I have a lot of track experience (although zero race experience - just DE). I didn't do any prep work on the truck - I never even drove it until the first practice session last Friday.

First off, we FINISHED! Plus, we finished 33rd out of ~95 starters. The truck is a bone stock 1995 S-10 (230k miles on the engine) with the only performance mods being lowering springs in the front, lowering blocks in the rear and a larger front sway bar off of a Tahoe or something. Kumho street tires. That's it. 165hp of raging fury that redlines at 4500-5000 rpm. Absolutely no cheating - we were completely within the rules. In fact, in a sea of cheaters, we were somewhat of the oddball in that we left a lot on the table.

The truck:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1392036556.jpg

You can see in the background what our competition looked like. I think we surprised a lot of people with that thing. Our fastest lap was a 1:59, but we ran ~2:05s all day long depending on the driver/traffic/mayhem. We had one extended pit stop (15 minutes) to replace brake pads, rotate tires, fuel, driver change and to remove the front grill and install our night-time lights but other than that it was like clockwork all day long. As a data point, I passed a 944 going through the Esses. That truck was awesome. In fact, I turned my fastest laps during the last stint at about 9:30 at night (a 2:03).

Our team won the "Spirit of Chumpcar" trophy for being the team that best exemplifies the series. The award:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1392036866.jpg

The whole thing is still sinking in, but one thing is for sure - I've done a lot of DE over the past 20 years, but nothing prepares one for the absolute mayhem of full-out racing. I also have a new-found respect for Chevy S-10 pickup trucks

Great job, Mike! I love that award...car parts with a motorcycle (made of car parts?) on top. LOL!

How were people cheating?

They were not cheating, because they did'nt get caught.

Basically with cars built waaaaay beyond what the rules allow. It got out of hand years ago and Chump Car decided to more or less just let it go. I don't know all of the details and I really don't care. We're just out there to have fun.

BTW, the driver right before me (I got in for the last stint - 8:15 pm until the finish at 10:00 pm) accidentally broke the rear view mirror with his helment getting out, so I drove an hour and forty-five minutes at Road Atlanta in the dark with no mirrors. I don't recommend that. ;)

Fantastic!!!

chump has very specific rules about what is allowed, the idea being to keep costs down. such as the total cost of the car can only be $500. but you can replace "wear" parts, and you can sell anything you bought the car with to reduce its dollar figure, and buy other parts with it, which enters into this whole world of black market buying and selling, and phony paperwork "proving" you only spent such and such amount, when really, you spent WAY WAY more.

i seem to remember, that a decent chump car, costs 5-10 grand by the time you are done. even though the rules state your car should only cost $500

+1.

I have not done a single DE since racing with the SCCA.

So much more fun when you can use the whole track, and pass where ever you please!

Congrats!

So now we know:
Mustang < Well Set up 944 < Well Set up S-10 ?

Why did you run a truck? Cheby Chump Truck series?

Exactly. ;) Adding more power to the truck would expose some weaknesses for sure, but as it is now, it is very drivable. Very neutral and has good brakes. We have trouble getting the power down coming out of slow turns (7 and 10A), but other than that I am pretty impressed.

The guys that bought it both had S-10s in high school and they just thought it would be fun (this is East Tennessee after all). It would not have been my pick, but what the heck. It's a standard cab truck and my 6' 3" frame doesn't fit very well with a cage, etc.

I don't understand Chump Car valuations, but all cars are supposed to be "less than $500". Well, show me a 944 with 944 Turbo brakes, etc., for less than $500!! I think what Chump Car does is "make up" a value for different vehicles and then add $$ to the value based on performance mods. If you exceed the $500 limit, they assign penalty laps. Our truck was valued at $230, so we've got a lot of room for mods. Cockerpunk nailed it above...

One of the veteran Miata teams (who shall remain nameless) gave us a hard time about the truck with the statement, "you do realize that those things aren't exactly known for their handling". Well, we passed them fair and square on the track and finished 10 spots ahead of them in the race. SmileWavy

A bunch of my friends from Ottawa, ON competed in this event. They had some mechanical issues, but loved every second of it. My CHUMP experience was a blast -- but we only had to share the track with 25 cars. I can't imagine the excitement of 100 cars.

Well done and congratulations. It sure sounds a fun even if everyone stays in the spirit of what is intended.

I think we met those guys. Did they have a VW Rabbit/Golf of some sort?

Congrats, yea, one only has to look at your picture to see some aren't really competing in the spirit (nice Bimmer:p) I heard about it from a friend who was racing there.

Glad you had a nice time.

Our Lemons race at Sonoma is in March and we are thinking about doing the 24 hour race with Chump Car in SoCal again.

Here's our latest 'trophy':

Flying Lizard Motorsports: TUDOR United Sportscar Championship Racing Team
( scroll down a bit ) :D

Can I ask how cheaply (car, entry, parts, etc) this can be done? I would love to do it but don't want to drop anything close to 5-10k

$4k for the car ready to race is to be expected if you do all the prep and fab work yourself.
Finding a good used race seat and belts still in date will save you a fortune.

In all honesty, I think this is what you're looking at. I think $5k would be the minimum unless you've got a seat, harnesses, fire suppression system, race suit, helmet, nomex, shoes, etc. already. Our guys had to buy/fab everything. Entry fees were $1100 alone. We spent almost $600 on GAS.

I would say this would be the bare minimum. What our guys did (and it paid off), was went through the truck and rebuilt/replaced a lot of stuff. New radiator, new alternator, all new belts, hoses, etc. New hubs/bearings/rotors/pads. New clutch. Rebuilt the rear end. Gutted the interior and re-wired the truck with redundant circuits for things like the lights. Toggle switches for everything from wipers to lights to interior lights/underhood lights (gotta be able to see at night). Had to install a new windshield. Six new tires/wheels (so we had two spares). Roll bar padding, battery case, window net...it just adds up. Even if you start off with a $1000 vehicle, the kilobucks add up quickly.

Congrats!!!
Back in the early 90's a friend had a S-10, 4.3 V-6 short bed. He had a convertible top (roof cut off) and we did exhaust/cam/K&N/3" lowered etc. that truck would run circles around Mustang GT's and Camaro's!!!

Looks like you ran it without a bed cover and no tailgate.

The rear end lift must have been terrible.

Congrats, from another S-10 owner.

For next year you might want to try some of my aerodynamic enhancements (all very cheap) for extra down-force.

Chin spoiler:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/465923-chin-spolier-fast-easy-cheap-effective.html

Rear spoiler:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/471921-rear-spoiler-pick-up-truck-experiment.html

Roof Wing:
Roof Spoiler on Pick-Up Truck Cab - Phase-1 - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com

Not at the speeds we were running. ;)

Another team posted some footage where he's chasing us for a couple of laps...

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