Tim Horton

[yellowperil]

Until now I always had read Mr. Horton died in his Porsche, but 40 yrs on, now find out it was a Pantera. That explains a lot. Never liked the idea that his Porsche killed him. In any case it was a sad loss of a good and much loved hockey player.

[2porscheguy]

When you mention a hockey player that died in his Porsche, who can forget Flyers goaltender Pelle Lindberg and his red 930 back in the 80's.

[plumb4u2]

I'm confused why you "did not like that his Porsche killed him"

His Pantera did not kill him either......he was driving and lost control not wearing a seat belt and was ejected from the car

he could have gotten killed the same way in a Volvo

You said "that explains a lot"
does that mean you feel he would have been safer in a Porsche?

[yellowperil]

Right.

[GWN7]

I was going to say that if he was driving a Porsche he might not have died but then I read this:

Horton died in a motor vehicle accident in the early morning of February 21, 1974, after losing control of his white De Tomaso Pantera sports car on the Queen Elizabeth Way (QEW) in St. Catharines, Ontario.[8] He had played a game in Toronto the previous evening against his former team, the Maple Leafs, and was driving alone to Buffalo, New York, 160 km (99 mi) south. The Sabres had lost the game, and despite sitting out the third period and playing with a jaw and ankle injury, Horton was selected one of the game's three stars.[9]

Horton's Pantera had been given to him by Sabres' manager Punch Imlach as an enticement to return to the team for one more season.[10]

On his way to Buffalo, Horton stopped at his office in Oakville, and was met there by Ron Joyce.[10][11] While there, Horton phoned his brother Garry, who recognized that Tim had been drinking and tried to convince him not to leave. As well, Joyce offered to have Horton stay with him. Horton chose to continue his drive to Buffalo.[11]

After 4:00 am, a woman reported to the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) in Burlington that she had observed a car traveling at a high rate of speed on the QEW. A warning was broadcast over police radio. At 4:30 am, OPP Officer Mike Gula observed a speeding vehicle traveling Niagara-bound on the QEW in Vineland. Gula activated his siren and attempted to pursue Horton's vehicle, but lost sight of it.[11][12]

Horton passed a curve in the road at Ontario Street and was approaching the Lake Street exit in St. Catharines when he lost control and drove into the centre grass median, where his tire caught a recessed sewer and then flipped several times before coming to a stop on its roof in the Toronto-bound lanes. Not wearing a seatbelt, Horton was ejected 60 m (200 ft) from the car. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital.[8][12]

After the accident, police denied that Horton was driving drunk. His autopsy was not made public, and there was no official public inquiry.[13] In 2005, the autopsy was made public (with witness statements redacted) and revealed that Horton's blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit, and that a half-filled vodka bottle was amongst the crash debris. Horton was also in possession of the drugs Dexedrine (a stimulant) and Dexamyl (a stimulant-sedative), and traces of amobarbital (an ingredient in Dexamyl) were found in his blood. The autopsy report found no painkillers in Horton's body, and also concluded that his car had been in good working order. There was nothing to suggest Horton was evading police, or that police got near enough to initiate a criminal pursuit.[8][13"

Dex's (70's legal speed), dexamyl to kill the pain and keep you awake, 2X the limit with vodka....the only thing he should have been driving was a taxi.

[JJ 911SC]

He only had a Double Double

[kanadary]

And some honeydipped tim bits...

[john70t]

Then there was that 'recessed sewer' thing:
High enough to stop a vehicle cold and flip the driver through the windshield.

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

He only had a Double Double

Many American coffee places have no idea what "double double" means.

Next time you're in the US, try it.....

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by Hydrocket

Many American coffee places have no idea what "double double" means.

Next time you're in the US, try it.....

Was more in reference to what he was drinking that night which was not a coffee with 2 cream and 2 sugar

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by Hydrocket

Next time you're in the US, try it.....

I give up a long time ago. They don't even have vinigar at McDonald for the French fries...

[1990C4S]

The legal wranglings between Tim Horton's widow and Ron Joyce are also 'interesting'.

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

I give up a long time ago. They don't even have vinigar at McDonald for the French fries...

What the hell do you need vinegar on poutine for?

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

The legal wranglings between Tim Horton's widow and Ron Joyce are also 'interesting'.

Business partner bought out the widow. When she figured out she was screwed she sued and lost.

More interesting is her daughter married his son. After the lawsuit....

[Tobra]

I thought this would be about donuts.

[Nostril Cheese]

I always bring back a few cans. And Coffee Crisp. Good stuff.

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by GWN7

Business partner bought out the widow...

For a few boxes of titbits...

Around 1 million IIRC