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You're building options. Money to start a biz, to take a lot of time off, to do something that doesn't pay for awhile, to retire early.
I loved my previous career, then I hated it, it was killing me. But we had $200K in the bank, this was in the 90s. My wife and I quit our jobs, spent a year traveling around the world, I went back to grad school for a couple years, we had two kids, I got into a new career at half my last salary, and we had the money to do it all. Options are good. Savings are good. Quote:
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exactly what I'm doing. Building an escape plan. I love my job, but I don't want to do this schedule for another 20 years. If this job didn't have an awesome pension, the answer would be easier for me....
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Now I wish I either worked outdoors or was a teacher with summers off to live life. When I was graduating high school I threw those opportunities out because they didn't pay enough. I love the security, but I know friends whose household income is half of my personal salary and they are some of the happiest, most fulfilled people I know. You can't get that from money. And 18-25 is the time to see the world, backpack through Europe, or whatever. I wish I had done that rather than start a career. Now I'm traveling for the first time at 34 and just learning about options I wish I knew about when I was in high school. I think the dirty hippies living in their van have some things figured out that "successful" people don't understand. |
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I did a little of that. Not nearly enough. I'm going to try to get my kids to do it. I can help them, just enough, not too much. You're never 20 again. |
I did a little too. Wish I would have done more. 2006 to 2007 I backpacked eastern Europe. Best experience of my life
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I live relatively modestly. Most of my travel is through work, so getting on a plane for vacation is too much like work for me.
Tell your daughter to put away something every pay check for retirement/rainy day. I've been putting something away every year for about 35 years. Sometimes I don't think enough, but I'm shocked when I read that the average person my age (60) has less than a years salary in retirement savings. |
I was lucky. I got a job doing my hobby (investment research) within a year out of college. It was the job I wanted as early as high school. It was a small investment adviser that wrote research for institutional clients (mutual funds, hedge funds...). We later started our own fund and I moved to that side of the business. I was truly a kid in a candy store. I was working a lot. My wife was studying for actuary exams and we didn't have kids yet. Fast forward ten years and the owner sells the fund. I move with the fund to a much larger organization. Essentially the same job buy way different environment, different incentives. I learned, I'm not a big company guy. I still love what I do, but the luster has vanished. The money is great, and almost everyone works 40 hours. I've dropped to 45-50 and I feel like I'm slacking. As the job has become just a job, I realized I had no other outside interest. For the last 20 years, I worked. I'm now trying to find outside interest to maintain a sense of happiness. Looking back, I'm not sure if I would have done much differently. I feel I've been pretty happy for most of my life. I've never lived beyond my means. Even when I just out of college making $16k per year.
On another forum I used to frequent, a poster dropped out of college and became a whitewater guide traveling all over the world. He intended to only do it for a few semesters, but got caught up in it and stayed on. After five years, or so, he realized that his friends while his friends were getting their first jobs, he didn't have any "workforce skills." He felt he was doomed to working in tourist/service industry barley making enough to live on. He was supposed to be writing a book, but I quit going to that website. I always remember that story as someone who "traveled and lived" instead of going to school and thought that he should have sucked it up and continued school. But, I wish I would have done more before getting a real job. Now I just need to retire early enough so I can do everything I missed out on before my body cannot do it. |
I answered earlier in the post but it isn't about things. I had things, lot's of stuff. It came crashing down for many reasons and I had to pick myself up and really take stock of what life is. I had money- it's gone, for many reasons. I is money, it isn't my life - I really honor that. I can envy those who have or didn't have the same fate as I. I know many who are in worse shape than I.
It ain't about stuff - it is a lesson to learn and I wish it on no one. My oldest son went to 2 semesters of college and failed. I cried when he graduated high school and it wasn't tears of joy but relief as I literally took him to school in his senior year just to meet the attendance requirement to graduate. Today, he runs his own business and is very successful, I don't worry about his professional career. He can school most. I do business with him and am very proud. He tells me never to worry about him professionally and I believe him. This a far cry from me taking him to school just to get him there hoping he would get an HS diploma. Life is a marathon, not a sprint! |
Very good advice.
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2 to 5 times her age depending on where she lives. She should find a career, not a job, that grows as she grows. It should be enjoyable, but not necessarily "her hobby". People need balance in their lives and having a good job that funds other things is perfect.
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dental hygenist, good pay, most dentist now work 4 days/wk, so long weekend every week.. always in demand and even more now as the population ages. the only drawback is you gotta stick your hand in someones mouth.
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I bought houses, sold some to not have a mortgvage, and now make about 1.5 times what I did as a computer tech/network admin. Easy money. This week I've done absolutely nothing and I still get paid the same :) |
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Ahhh, the questions of life.
I don't think it's about "how much to make" but rather how well you manage what you make. Choose a lifestyle that is well within your means and rock it. If you are making $100k but spending $200k it will be a very short ride. Education, savings, and managing life within your means gives you a lot of choices and you can ramp up or ramp down your lifestyle as desired. Live life on your terms and not someone else's. Don't get so wrapped up in maintaining all your "stuff" that you forget to live, laugh and love. |
For me the answer has always been more and I make ten times what my goal was when went to college.
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I know this doesn't answer your question, but I think it will help.
Buy her the book "The Richest Man in Babylon." This book provides simple guidance. The secret is to live within your means. If she can do that, everything else will fall in place. |
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To a spambot, I don't see what difference location makes?
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I think location often cancels out. Where it is cheap to live, wages are typically lower - on average. Obviously not true if you're on a fixed income, telecommuting, minimum wage, etc, and you have to take the local standards into account - can't compare the cost of a 4 bedroom house, 1/4 acre in Iowa with the same in Manhattan.
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