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Rick V 05-18-2014 09:04 AM

There is a reason these are called entry level jobs not full time careers. I have very little to no sympathy for people who make bad choices, refuse to try and better themselves, and scream that the government needs to do something about their situation. I grew up on food stamps and when Beth and I got married we had to resort to assistance for a little bit, I am well aware of both sides of the coin. If you refuse to step up to the plate and do what you have to to better yourself you deserve to flounder in the pool of stagnant water you have made for yourself. Take responsibility for your actions and get on with life.

Tervuren 05-18-2014 09:06 AM

I just did a check, and the fast food place that gets my most business, also has the highest pay for their employees compared to other national chains.

I enjoy the extra service, lower pay minimum wage worth employees would not survive at this chain, as they are expected to work well and be cheerful about it. Its a responsibility that comes with higher pay, and if you can't cut it, you're not going to make the extra $$$.

Raising the minimum wage to equal with an entry level machinist, is a :eek: of entitlement that creates and attitude that you simply deserve free money from somewhere. Raising the minimum wage and increasing the pay of the employees at lower service fast food will not magically double my experience going there.

DanielDudley 05-18-2014 04:00 PM

If you look at the cost of everything else in comparison to the cost of a gallon of gas, things are going to have to correct in the next few years.

cstreit 05-19-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mreid (Post 8070742)
One of the many downsides of Oblamacare is that many companies, universities, and organizations are now limiting their workforce to less than 30 hours/week in order to avoid fines and taxes. This means two or three jobs to get that many hours and still no healthcare.

Well, then two 30 hour jobs. It sucks, but no one got ahead working part time in an entry level job....

I don't understand his plight

look 171 05-19-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mreid (Post 8070713)
I'll take a stab at some answers:

1. Use this low paying job to educate yourself
2. Don't have kids until you can afford them
3. Be willing to move to a location where you can use your new education for higher paying work
4. Stop whining and expecting others to give you things or compensate you for your bad choices
5. Take accountability for yourself
6. Stop allowing foreign nationals to take jobs US citizens could do (why do we have so many different kinds of visas?)
7. Tax $1M+ incomes at 50% and use it to offer free university education to US citizens
8. Eliminate tax breaks for religion and all tax deductions
9. Eliminate capital gains tax
10. Introduce a flat tax

This is the failure of the liberal. Make excuses and expect others to pay for the mistakes of others. Hold no one accountable or responsible, except those who have worked hard and have accomplished points 1-5 above. What you missed is that they sacrificed. They paid their own way. They took the risks and when successful reaped the reward. Now you want them to pay for those who did not. Doesn't sound fair to me. In fact, sounds criminal.

Umm???:confused:

911dean 05-19-2014 09:39 AM

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</div>Well, then two 30 hour jobs. It sucks, but no one got ahead working part time in an entry level job....<br>
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I don't understand his plight
Nail hit on the head.
Too many people want something for nothing.
I want an entry level job but get paid like a fully skilled worker

look 171 05-19-2014 09:55 AM

Most people's mentality at entry level jobs are the lack of care and only want to do the minimal amount of work possible. Management aren't dumb, so they see that and guess who isn't moving up too the next rung? when a subpar service job is provided, customers stop coming and lay off starts. Who's the first to go? This is my experience with entry level pay jobs for many who stay for years.

sammyg2 05-19-2014 10:14 AM

In my 20's, I worked at a skilled craft which also involved a great deal of manual labor (millwright rebuilding large machinery).
There were times when money was very tight, so I did the logical thing:
"Hey boss, if there's any overtime available please let me know, I'm in. I don't care if it's midnight shift, weekends, holidays, doesn't matter. I'll work it".

And work it I did, many weeks of 70+ hours or more. I did that for 10 years.
I made allot of money, and improved my situation and managed to max out the 401k and put some money in the bank.

What I DID NOT do was sit around on my part-time ass thinking it was everyone else's job to take care of me.
Shame on anyone who does that.

berettafan 05-19-2014 10:50 AM

If you currently hold an $11/hr job you WILL be unemployed when the owner is forced to make it a $15/hr job.

Else you would already have a $15/hr job.

Jim Richards 05-19-2014 10:55 AM

This striking stuff is just one facet of capitalism in action. However it turns out, employers and customers will respond accordingly.

sammyg2 05-19-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 8072464)
This striking stuff is just one facet of capitalism in action. However it turns out, employers and customers will respond accordingly.

Striking? Capitalism? On the contrary. Organized labor going on strike, along with ALL the laws and regulations designed to give them an advantage and hinder the employer has a great deal more to do with communism than with capitalism.
It is pure marxism at it's roots.

look 171 05-19-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8072419)
In my 20's, I worked at a skilled craft which also involved a great deal of manual labor (millwright rebuilding large machinery).
There were times when money was very tight, so I did the logical thing:
"Hey boss, if there's any overtime available please let me know, I'm in. I don't care if it's midnight shift, weekends, holidays, doesn't matter. I'll work it".

And work it I did, many weeks of 70+ hours or more. I did that for 10 years.
I made allot of money, and improved my situation and managed to max out the 401k and put some money in the bank.

What I DID NOT do was sit around on my part-time ass thinking it was everyone else's job to take care of me.
Shame on anyone who does that.

I have guys who call me all the time looking for work because they are slow. I give them the job and ask them to work weekends such as Sundays. The answer is always no, can't do it Sunday knowing we needed the work done yesterday. I always have a difficultly understanding that. Somewhere in the 3rd grade, they were pulled aside and was taught that to never work on Sunday? They always need Sundays off, but they are in need of money because they can't make rent, but nooooo, no fooking work on Sundays. :rolleyes:

Tobra 05-19-2014 01:17 PM

Lucky thing they are not doctors, but I suppose someone with that mentality could never become a doctor.

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8070644)
Where does one find all these high paying jobs? Last I heard we were in a recession and unemployment was over 6%.

I can tell you where you are certain not to find a "high paying" job. Standing in a picket line in front of Burger King. When I worked minimum wage jobs, I never had only one and was always moving up. Dishwasher to busboy, busboy to waiter.


You always make me laugh Patrick. You are in favor of a ton of stuff that is going to make this worse, then seem surprised when in fact, consistent with numerous predictions, it actually makes things worse when something you support as a "good idea" is put into effect. Very amusing, particularly so, due to the fact that I presume you are a bright, well educated man.


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