Poo for brains

[wdfifteen]

I'm having to replace a wall and redo the floor on a rental house. I put together a tight schedule because the tenant has to live with a plywood door until the job is finished. Got the old wall down yesterday and the concrete contractor came today. He saw the old wall, he knew what I wanted, there was no ambiguity. So here is what he did.



The wall encloses this area that once was a porch. You can see the caulking on the wall where the enclosing wall was attached. It was directly under the brown header.





So this is how he poured the new floor. The greenish brick are where the old wall met the house, and where the one is going to met it. The anchor bolts are about where the siding will fall. WTF was he thinking??
Some days I think I'm going to get out of building ownership.

[sc_rufctr]

Ohhh boy... Is he going to press charges?

[Evans, Marv]

Tell him to come back & use a hammer drill to sink some holes & install new ones. I would never let somebody do anything without me being there, at least at the beginning of the job.

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

I would never let somebody do anything without me being there,

Me too.

[dan88911]

Has he returned your call?

[craigster59]

Just re engineer the whole house around the new wall. Problem solved.

[dan88911]

My what a difference a day makes......on the serious side after a second look at your first photo.
Could he have made some miss guided reference from that over head panel.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

Tell him to come back & use a hammer drill to sink some holes & install new ones. I would never let somebody do anything without me being there, at least at the beginning of the job.

That's what he is going to do. After talking to him we know what he did. He was pouring over an old slab (in order to raise the floor). He followed a stress relief line on the old slab instead of looking at the wall, or the header, or the two chalk lines on the floor (4 inches apart with the word "wall" written between them). Even he said it was a boneheaded mistake. That old stress line has no relevance to anything.

I was there just after they started. I saw them finish setting up the first 16 feet of form. By then they had plastic and wire down and I couldn't see that the form wasn't following the chalk lines.

[kach22i]

Just think of all the money you saved on hiring an architect.

A five minute sketch by yourself would have saved a lot of grief.

Tip, it is preferable that new construction not be made flush with existing/old construction. New walls are typically set back 6-inches or so (maybe even a foot), you don't want to be securing/sealing to a veneer anyway (lateral support).

Main reason for the off-set is old walls are not always plumb, and no builder wants to build crooked walls if he can help it.

Don't you guys have an energy code out there which includes thermal breaks? Lots of specialty items and details are changing tradition out this way in freeze thaw land. Ohio isn't that far from Michigan, we share a border don't we?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Just think of all the money you saved on hiring an architect.

A five minute sketch by yourself would have saved a lot of grief.

I thought the chalk lines on the floor with the word "wall" written between them would be better than a sketch on paper.

Originally Posted by kach22i

Tip, it is preferable that new construction not be made flush with existing/old construction. New walls are typically set back 6-inches or so (maybe even a foot), you don't want to be securing/sealing to a veneer anyway (lateral support).

It's not new construction. I'm replacing a non-load bearing rotted-out wall enclosing what was once a porch. It's an unheated 3-season room. It ain't rocket science.