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You did a good thing.
Charge them for your time. All of it. |
+1 for what Mike said. If it were me, I think I'd list everything you put into it, give it to them and ask what they think what it's worth - given they know your shop rate. I doubt you will come out on top or even on the deal. I would guess this kind of thing shouldn't be worth it to you in the future, although you seem to be a really, really nice, trustworthy, hard working guy concerned for your customers. So you might repeat.
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Wow, I have a new level of respect for you Fred. I would say bill him what was agreed up front.
You provided a once in a lifetime experience for their father-son project and they must be very appreciative. Also, if you're ever doing an m97 engine rebuilding class I'd like to take my 3.4 up to a 3.8 ;) |
Discount for % level of added enjoyment of a teaching experience, good time, company and conversation, etc. The more you enjoyed it, the less time it was "working"
Add back for % level of frustration and irritation. The less you enjoyed it, the more time you spent "working" But don't cut yourself very short. |
Ask them what they think is fair. I love my son and an opportunity like this is priceless. I'd bet they come in higher than your shop rate. My step father is a retired class A mechanic. He NEVER charges people enough when they work with him.
I would be surprised if they tried to lowball you. |
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Fred, my son got his interest in working on cars and farm equipment because of a guy like you. When I needed to rebuild the tractor that came with this place, a friend of mine with outstanding tractor knowledge helped my son and I through the process. Three weekends and a life time of memories. Well done. |
Write up a bill for full price, and discount -if you want to.-
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Bill it out like any normal overhaul. I'm sure the Pop, and son realize what they're getting for their money; a proper, and professional engine overhaul, AND direct, hands-on lessons about how to do it. That's priceless knowledge.
Our industry needs more good guys like you, Fred. |
Very nice gesture for you to do this, Fred. Not surprising given the tenure of your posts here through the years.
FWIW, I would charge your normal shop rates for your hours and what you would normally charge for the parts. Include all your hours including the ones spent resolving their mistakes. The value your customer and his son received far exceeds this amount. And he will know this. Keep up the good work, Fred. We're all very proud of you, man. |
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Charge them ..
be fair... and realize.. you are now part of memories that are priceless.. well done.. Rika |
Here is how it works.
I'm in DC today, working and running the company we own. Last night, I ask my son, who is home for the summer, to work on the front end loader attachment on one of our small tractors. I noticed a missing bolt. Jack does the CSI, finds that the bolt had sheared (my fault since I didn't keep the torque on the bolts), and goes to the local MF dealer (the friend I mentioned before). Ten minutes of what to do, why it sheared and the best way (there are many, depending) to get the remains of the bolt out and Jack gets it done. Offers him new bolts for free. Priceless stuff. |
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Either bill the upfront agreed amount, or say you enjoyed it, there's no charge whatsoever, you didn't consider it work. I wouldn't feel right to get a discounted rate on work like this as a customer. Either charge all, or nothing. |
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I was just thinking a little earlier that kids these days don't get enough role models. That friend of yours, Paul - demonstrated to your son how to be a good person. "Demonstrated" being the key word....as it will remain in his memory for his lifetime. It really is priceless. Again - kudos to you, Fred. But DO charge what you should. It's only FAIR to do so. |
Fred, Your a great guy and a credit to the trade
I'd charge then standard shop rate for the job |
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also, I may have to move so I am closer to Valencia, PA |
I would guess, at every opportunity, this father/son will be telling everyone how great you and your shop is. How much would it cost for that kind of advertising? Beyond that...it is clear that you now have a couple of customers for life.
Perhaps you should have a regular "rebuild a 911 class" and charge participants $xxx a head to attend the class. Sounds like you have a knack for it! :) |
Gm has made a business out of this sort of thing and charges more for the experience of a lifetime!
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