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recycled sixtie 06-04-2014 06:07 AM

Is there an suv out there....
 
that does not have issues? I am interested in a small one. I have checked for reliability all of the following:
Rav4
Honda Crv
VW Tiguan
Subaru Forester
Mazda CX5
etc etc

When I check JD power, Edmunds etc most of them seem to have issues. I am assuming because anything that is mechanical can break.

Enlighten me on a small suv that does everything well and is reliable. Oh yes and fun to drive. Cheers, G.

onewhippedpuppy 06-04-2014 06:14 AM

All but the VW should be good reliable cars. The problem is that people only join sites like Edmunds to complain, so you just see the bad. My parents have a 2012 RAV4 that has been a great car, albeit a bit boring. Personally I really like the CX5.

saxen 06-04-2014 06:15 AM

I love my Acura mdx- decent mpg- the reliability has been spot on. 130k miles nothing but normal replacement parts (oil,brakes, fluids, ect.)

jhynesrockmtn 06-04-2014 06:25 AM

My MDX experience has been similar to Saxen's and experience with older Toyota products very positive. I have had friends drive their older generation CRV's well in to the 250,000 mile range.

Z-man 06-04-2014 06:30 AM

Despite the stereo-type, you can't go wrong with a Subaru. I've had two (A Legacy and an SVX) and both were rock solid cars. The Legacy was a real workhorse despite the abuse it got!

My current daily driver is a 2007 Ford Explorer Sport-Trac. Though a bit bigger than what's on your list, you may want to check out the new Explorers. My Sport Trac has 105,000 miles, and except for an issue with a warped exhaust manifold, it has been trouble-free.

-Z

id10t 06-04-2014 06:30 AM

We replaced our aging (213k on it) MPV with a CX9 18 months ago. It rocks.

sammyg2 06-04-2014 06:42 AM

Hyundai/Kia.

VincentVega 06-04-2014 07:26 AM

It's hard to beat the Mazda for the fun to drive/reliable combo.

gacook 06-04-2014 07:43 AM

Quite enjoyed our Kia Sorento; never had any problems with it.

dave 911 06-04-2014 09:02 AM

I just bought a Subaru XV crosstrek last month. Downsized from an 06 Explorer. Love it so far. And 31MPG on my first few tanks of gas.

gassy 06-04-2014 09:19 AM

2001 CRV -- no problems but boring

2011 Escape -- no problems, fun to drive.

porsche4life 06-04-2014 09:24 AM

I loved driving the tiguan we rented for a week in Tahoe, but I have no idea how reliable it would have been long term. I will say it handled some deep wet snow no problem. :)

GH85Carrera 06-04-2014 09:48 AM

How about....

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gacook 06-04-2014 09:56 AM

Also, the CX-9 was a great car (until it needed new tires, so my wife traded it in while I was in Hawaii, grrr...), so I would assume the smaller version (CX-5) would be just as good.

Craig 06-04-2014 11:20 AM

We just bought a used 2011 CRV with about 42,000 miles and we love it.
Plenty of power (180 hp), and the best brakes I've ever stomped on. Steers and drive real nice.

Craig

JeremyD 06-04-2014 11:39 AM

We have a 2013 Escape with the 2.0 Ecoboost - It's a blast to drive - you can lay a scratch - even with traction control.

kanadary 06-04-2014 04:05 PM

Wife's mdx has been trouble free 2008 but relatively low miles at 60k

stealthn 06-04-2014 04:23 PM

Xterra

Nostril Cheese 06-04-2014 04:29 PM

Hyundai never ceases to amaze me.

porwolf 06-04-2014 04:33 PM

My friend bought a Tiguan over 3 years ago. Drives it a lot in town and long distance. Loves it, thinks it is the best handling smaller SUV and had not a single issue so far.

cabmandone 06-04-2014 05:12 PM

With Subaru, depending on the year you have to worry about the timing belt. I believe in 2013, they went to a timing chain which should eliminate the biggest problem with the 2.5 L engine. I love my Suby.

Also, don't be afraid of the Legacy Outback. They get good mileage for an AWD vehicle. I get 27 highway and 21 (blended) in my 95. My parents have a 2013 that gets about the same mileage.

onewhippedpuppy 06-04-2014 05:30 PM

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We have a 2013 Escape with the 2.0 Ecoboost - It's a blast to drive - you can lay a scratch - even with traction control.
I had one of them as a rental and drove it over 1000 miles, damn good little SUV. I was very impressed, far more so than with my parents' RAV4.

Tilikum Turbo 06-04-2014 06:56 PM

Can't go wrong with the Honda SRV...we have had one since 2003...bulletproof reliable, very cheap to maintain, good MPG, and Honda reliability.

The downside to any SUV/Truck when considering "safety", and is the perception of being in a "safer" vehicle, is it's still has the reflex's of an SUV or Truck, not like a small economy car. If one get's in lots of accidents, then looking at an SUV/Truck as a "safe" vehicle, this may be the viable option(just as wearing protective gear playing tackle football, knowing very well your going to take a hit).

There is a reason why a cheetah doesn't need amour plating, as it's reflexes, and ability to turn and maneuver don't require it. Same with your Porsche...when driven properly(and driving defensively(paying attention to what's around you), it doesn't need armor plating like a tank.

Much of the worlds products are sold on a "worst case scenario" basis of "what if". That's a fine line of what we perceive of what we actually need.

M.D. Holloway 06-04-2014 07:15 PM

I drive the heck out of my 2006 Honda Pilot. I have never had an issue with it and I see no reason ever to sell it. I would buy another in 1/2 a heart beat.

LeeH 06-04-2014 07:54 PM

My wife loves her Mazda CX-5. What are you concerns about the CX-5? We've put a lot of miles on several different Mazda products and have been very happy. My Mazda5 didn't have adjustable rear camber which caused it to have an appetite for tires. I put on a camber kit for $100 and it's been great ever since.

Ayles 06-04-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 8099745)
Xterra

Another vote for the Xterra. Had mine since 2008, no problems.

Oracle 06-04-2014 08:11 PM

I have a Chevy Equinox 2013.. I'm very-very happy. Way better than the Escape, Trailblazer, Journey and CR-V I had...

quaz 06-05-2014 03:12 AM

70K miles on my Tiguan and no problems. We love it.

onewhippedpuppy 06-05-2014 05:44 AM

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My wife loves her Mazda CX-5. What are you concerns about the CX-5? We've put a lot of miles on several different Mazda products and have been very happy. My Mazda5 didn't have adjustable rear camber which caused it to have an appetite for tires. I put on a camber kit for $100 and it's been great ever since.
Ditto here, we have a Mazda5 and it's fantastic. Just like the other four Mazdas that we've owned, and there's another four with extended family. They are the best kept secret in the auto business in my opinion.

recycled sixtie 06-05-2014 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 8100081)
My wife loves her Mazda CX-5. What are you concerns about the CX-5? We've put a lot of miles on several different Mazda products and have been very happy. My Mazda5 didn't have adjustable rear camber which caused it to have an appetite for tires. I put on a camber kit for $100 and it's been great ever since.

I bought Phil Edmundston's Lemon Aid book and the only criticism of the CX5 is noisy front strut noise. It is recommended overall. I just have to get out and test drive one.

My neighbor recently bought a Subaru Forester which he is happy with. I have concerns about VW Tiguan reliability but I am sure it is a fun ride. Our winter cold and snow are really hard on cars so good heat and handling are essential.

My 2001 Boxster has been the most fun car I have ever had but I am tired of the niggling problems. At my stage of life I just need a reliable vehicle where I just turn the key and go. Thanks all for the input.

My wife's 2002 Camry has been rock solid over the years but just cannot justify another Toyota.No character. The 2005 Nissan Xtrail (like a small Xterra) that I have given to my daughter has been reliable but cold in winter. It has got premature rust so I cannot buy the Nissan Rogue if they don't honour their warranty

Anyways it will be fun trying these different suvs. I will fix up the Boxster to make it more saleable. I cannot sell a car privately unless I feel good about it.

Cheers , Guy

1990C4S 06-05-2014 08:27 AM

Isn't the data available from the sources you quoted more reliable than a bunch of comments from individuals?

There are no really bad cars any more. But every car has at least one weak point, even if the weakness is just being boring.

You can find a person who is happy with any vehicle, even a Lada, if you look long enough.

dad911 06-05-2014 11:20 AM

Going through the same exercise now. Had great experience with Honda/Acura, so I bought a Honda Pilot to replace the Ford Expedition.

135k on the MDX, only expenses were gas, oil, pads & filters. Expedition failed me twice on the road with rusted brake lines and transmission lines. Also changed ignition packs, TP sensors, exhaust manifold cracked and last year put in a new transmission.

Also buying a Subaru Forester or Impreza to replace our Audi.

onewhippedpuppy 06-05-2014 11:26 AM

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I have a Chevy Equinox 2013.. I'm very-very happy. Way better than the Escape, Trailblazer, Journey and CR-V I had...
If you haven't already, you should research issues associated with the 4-cylinder Equinox. High oil consumption, power loss, timing chain failure, there are a number of issues that typically lead to engine replacement. I don't know how common they are, but it's enough that I've heard about it despite zero interest in those products.

gacook 06-05-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 8101168)
Going through the same exercise now. Had great experience with Honda/Acura, so I bought a Honda Pilot to replace the Ford Expedition.

135k on the MDX, only expenses were gas, oil, pads & filters. Expedition failed me twice on the road with rusted brake lines and transmission lines. Also changed ignition packs, TP sensors, exhaust manifold cracked and last year put in a new transmission.

Also buying a Subaru Forester or Impreza to replace our Audi.

Ford has come a long way. Their cars today are a much higher caliber than they were 10 years ago.

recycled sixtie 06-05-2014 02:11 PM

Well went test driving 2 suv's today. First one was the Mazda CX5. It did everything well. Smooth ride , not too firm. Adequate power, uses regular unleaded. Not as exciting as I would have thought.

Then I went and tried the 2014 VW Tiguan. Lots of standard features. Uses premium unleaded. More of a driver's car than the CX5, smaller, great steering. Any comments about the DSG transmission/ long term reliability?

I can see why folks buy the Tiguan. I am in no hurry to buy.
Keep the comments coming.
G

Steve Carlton 06-05-2014 08:03 PM

Are you looking to buy it vs lease? How long would you keep it?

Personally, I wouldn't own a VW unless it was under warranty. I don't know what your budget is or what stuff costs in Canada, but I'd take a look at Subarus. Can't imagine what's wrong with CR-Vs. The CX-5 is supposed to be coming out with a turbo diesel that's supposed to be amazing.

LeeH 06-05-2014 08:12 PM

What model CX-5 did you drive? 2014 brought a new engine to the Touring and Grand Touring models.

Oracle 06-05-2014 08:30 PM

Agreed. Early builds had issues. Since 2012 has been much better. I'm not concerned since the car is under warranty.


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onewhippedpuppy 06-06-2014 04:20 AM

Isn't the Tiguan quite a bit more expensive than the CX5 and some of the others? If this is going to be a keeper do some reading on DSG maintenance, it's more complicated and intensive than a normal automatic.

recycled sixtie 06-06-2014 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8102429)
Isn't the Tiguan quite a bit more expensive than the CX5 and some of the others? If this is going to be a keeper do some reading on DSG maintenance, it's more complicated and intensive than a normal automatic.


I have read about the DSG trans. in Phil Edmunston's book Lemon Aid. It seems to be a crap shoot. Spme owners have a problem with it and some don't.

Even the bottom line Tiguan has a good array of features. Side airbags, heated seats, lumbar support adjustment in both front seats and it is fun to drive.

I would like to know from mechanics out there who have worked on the Golf/Tiguan DSG trans. is it a nightmare design?

Guy


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