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Help me identify this snake
My daughter saw this snake at out cottage in lower Northern Michigan yesterday. She said it was 2' - 3' long.
I've looked at some resources but none of them show any snake native to Michigan that has the same pattern that this snake exhibits. Here's a pic of the head and body ![]() Here's a full length shot ![]() What do any of you herpetologists on Pelican think we have here?
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Looks like a Northern Watersnake. Is there water close to where you took the photos?
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Lake Erie Watersnake The Lake Erie watersnake was removed from of the list of federally endangered and threatened species on August 16, 2011. This species was originally listed as a federally threatened species on August 30, 1999. What is the Lake Erie Watersnake? Appearance - Adult Lake Erie watersnakes are uniform gray in color or have incomplete band patterns. They resemble the closely related northern watersnake (Nerodia sipedon sipedon), but often lack the body markings, or have only a pale version of those patterns. Lake Erie watersnakes grow to 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 feet in length. They are not venomous. Habitat - In summer, the snakes live on the cliffs, ledges and rocky shorelines of limestone islands and forage in the nearshore waters of Lake Erie. During winter, Lake Erie watersnakes hibernate underground. Reproduction - Lake Erie watersnakes mate from late May through early June. During this time they may be found in large “mating balls” which typically consist of one female and several males. Young snakes are born mid-August through September with an average litter size of 23. Feeding Habits - Historically, the snakes fed on amphibians and native fish such as madtom, stonecat, logperch, and spottail shiners. However, during the 1990’s the round goby (Neogobius melanostomus) an invasive fish, established itself in the Great Lakes and caused population declines of many native fish. Today, 90 percent of the watersnake’s diet is round goby and 10 percent is mudpuppies and native fish. Map island in western Lake Erie that support Lake Erie watersnakes.Range - Lake Erie watersnakes can be found on a group of limestone islands in western Lake Erie, and on a portion of the Catawba/Marblehead peninsula in Ohio. Lake Erie watersnakes that lived on islands more than one mile from the Ohio mainland were protected under the Endangered Species Act. Watersnakes on the Ohio mainland, Mouse Island, and Johnson’s Island were never protected under the Endangered Species Act. Currently, all Lake Erie watersnakes remain protected under Ohio State wildlife law. Why is the Lake Erie Watersnake Threatened? Eradication - The snakes are often killed by humans. Habitat Loss or Degradation - Lake Erie watersnakes declined because of destruction of their shoreline habitat and excavation of winter hibernation habitat for developments. http://www.fws.gov/midwest/endangered/reptiles/lews/le-facts.html If all that matters is locality, this is a Lake Erie Watersnake (Nerodia sipedon insularum) caught on the shore near Put-In-Bay, South Bass Island. However, N. s. insularum tends to have less pronounced patterning and an overall darker color than the mainland sub-species (sipedon), and this individual seems to fit that description. Interbreeding does occur, so it could even be a ‘hybrid’. Perhaps only genotyping will allow certainty… ![]()
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Thanks!!! I'm thinking Northern water snake since we are quite far from Lake Erie. I told my daughter I'd get a quick answer here. The knowledge of this board never ceases to amaze me.
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Snakes can be a bit difficult to identify at times.
If you can see the eyes remember, round pupils like a person is not venomous, elliptical pupils like a cat grab a shovel.
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