Loss of reputation, and damages to his projected earnings and the value of his franchise. He doesn't have to win. he just has to create a situation where going forward with two lawsuits is more painful than stopping. Both sides end up signing an agreement not to sue, and settle for some nominal fee.

This is very common, and it doesn't have to do with the quality of the case, but rather the quality of the litigation.

As for mental anguish, are you saying that you would suffer none if you killed someone with your car, even if it wasn't your fault ? Are you saying it would not affect how you feel about driving in any way, of affect the way you drive, your competitive edge ?

When they put you on the stand, you are going to have to answer all these questions and more. You had better be prepared. Did you know your son was smoking pot ? Were you aware of how high he was ? Answer the question, Mr Monkey... ;)

All I need is a couple of witnesses willing to testify that there was a history of rash behavior, and now your suit isn't looking so good, but mine is just getting started. And I want damages. Is your lawyer really going to suggest that you go on, seeing where this will be leading you ?

The stupid question is whether or not Mr Stewart contributed to Mr Ward's death, quite obviously, it was his car that hit the guy. The question now becomes a matter of percentage of contribution, which is up to the lawyers.

Mr Stewart appears to be very contrite, and I don't see how anyone involved in something like this could not be profoundly affected for the rest of their lives. The apparent glee which some take with respect to this event, you in particular Denis, is really quite disgusting. I am sure you are not such a bad guy, but it is not exhibited in this thread at all.

I am out.

I take zero glee in this. Serious question: Is english not your first language? :confused:

He doesn't dare. Time to quietly move forward and count his lucky stars.

Yea, absolutely no good could come from sueing a grieving family, and smeering his own reputation all over the news/tabloids. He would be far better off keeping a low profile, and humbly living life until this incident fades from the headlines, and memory.

Could, (which is what I said) is only similar to would because they share 4 letters.

The Ward's should sue the track owner first.

- not providing adequate track lighting
- no rule in place stating that drivers must remain in the cars
- etc
- etc
- etc

I'm sure the track owner is not worth the $XXX M's that Stewart is.

No, they shouldn't sue at all. If there's enough light to drive a sprint car, as seems to be the case since they've been doing it there for years, there's enough light.

Ward was a hothead. He did something stupid and caused this whole thing. Time to accept that the kid didn't use good judgement. You can't legislate every single thing. At some point, you have to be smart enough to not **** up.

Sometimes, you just have to accept that.

JR

If that were the legislative standard our nation adhered to, we wouldn't have placards on lawn mowers reminding you not to put your hands under them.

Admittedly, I didn't read every post here (because I didn't have a week to kill). But from what I've seen as quotes from the Ward's, I will be incredibly surprised if they don't sue, and even more surprised if they win a penny.

Yeah, chainsaw owner guide in Europe 5 pages, same chainsaw owner guide in US, 35 pages, 30 of them about stuff like, Do not stop the chain with your bare hand...

Its always someone else fault :rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes: So let sue, it does not cost anything.

Bought a professional steam iron years ago. Warning tag on iron:
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DO NOT TOUCH HOT IRON BOTTOM WITH YOUR TONGUE
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I wasn't surprised.

I think I may have already posted this, I was gifted tickets to the Fontana NASCAR race, my buddy is a NASCAR fan... we were sitting in the middle of the front stretch and the cars were whipping by at 180MPH more or less... my buddy says to me "if one of those cars crashes and gets airborne we are dead. I think I said to him "why should the drivers be the only ones risking their lives?"
IMHO anyone who sets foot on a racetrack on race day is volunteering to be in a dangerous situation, be it driver, fans, crew, etc. not one has to be there... and if you are a fairly intelligent person you should be aware of the risks involved.

If I was Tony Stewart, I would just give them some money. Not because Ward's family really deserves it or anything, but because it would end the long protracted battle that would be emotionally draining.

Tony Stewart says he may not return to sprint cars

It wouldn't end the pain, but it would end the public side of it.

This. Exactly why I posted the picture of Saul the Shyster.

If the family of Kevin Ward decides to go ahead with the civil suit, then the only benefit is to the bankrolls of 2 teams of lawyers. Tony ends up paying no matter what, and there is absolutely no guarantee that the Ward family will win any award at all.

Present day America - a quagmire.
One can never be too protected. Just walk out of your house, and Boom!

I wouldn't. Offering money admits guilt, and the opponent thinks if you offer $$ now, they can collect more in the courts.

I've tried, even though not guilty, went to court, only winners were lawyers, they didn't collect a dime.

Nope. Under the uniform rules of civil procedure settlement negotiations are inadmissible in any trial. This bar is to encourage settlement and avoid protracted litigation.

OK, sinc the report says that Ward had a high enough level of tch to impair driving abilities, and...since the Ward family wants litigation...my question for you legal guys is this. Why then can't the other competitiors, fans, track owner, promoter, etc. sue the Ward estate for any financial awards, due to reckless endangerment, etc. etc. etc. How does this not work both ways?

Like I said, if I was Stewart. The GJ said not enough evidence. The web is full of people still thinking he did Something wonrg, if not outright murder. just because they dont like him. No legitimate new source (PPOT is not one) would continue to press it to Stewart. Pay the money, Wards sign a hush order, try and move on with life.

I went to the sprint car races last night in PA. I shot this video to see what it looks like for the driver.

World of Outlaws Sprint Car view. - YouTube

So Stewart gets crashed into by Keselowski on the cool-down lap and angrily floors his car in reverse and bashes Keselowski's front end in. The crowd cheered. Jeff Gordon called Stewart's reaction "awesome" in a post race interview. Really?

Stewart hasn't learned a thing, and is getting a total pass by the media on that one. Already another on track rage incident - regardless if it was provoked or not. You'd think he'd learn.

I think the track rage in the first incident was attributed to Kevin Ward. It would seem that Tony Stewart learned not to get out of his car to show his displeasure.

There were several drivers upset at that dip. Keselowski ran into several drivers after the race. Hamlin and Kenseth both tried to knock some sense into him in the garage afterwards. Kenseth is usually pretty hard to rile up.

Remember boys, NASCAR puts on a show not a race ;)

True. BK got what he deserved but I find it odd that 8 weeks removed from killing a fellow driver Stewart's hot headed reaction is called "awesome" by Jeff Gordon and lauded by the fans. The media glossed over Stewart's reaction as well. The guy's a hothead and hasn't learned a thing. I for one am on the side that he certainly didn't do all he could to avoid Ward. Even if the majority of the accident is on Ward.

I agree that it wasn't awesome. I think you have to be an idiot anymore to qualify for a NASCAR race. There are some guys I had and probably do have some respect for but there are fewer and fewer.

I do think there is money to be made as a pay per view event putting drivers in the ring. I would love to see these little mama's boys get their teeth handed to them.

Keselowski is what that sports needs vs Vanilla Jimmie. That was really poor behavior for a past cup champion the other night.

TS had to be INSANE for reacting that way. Sort of like how Zimmerman can't seem to stay out of trouble TS needs to channel his inner Kenseth (on most other nights).

Saturdays race was a real important one for a lot of guys moving to the next level for the end of the chase. Next week is Dega and even if you don't need to win, to stay in the points, you have to stay out of that big wreck. A whole season's work could be wiped out next weekend. Kes and Kenseth I think are on the bubble so they really need to finish well.

But being a belligerent hothead is TS's brand. If he cooled it after getting away with the Ward incident then his fans would think he'd become a pussy and maybe not like him anymore. He's merely getting back to his brand: Being an a $$ hole when necessary to please his fans.

*Dollar signs added intentionally.

This appears to be the case, fines & probation for the offenders. They won't sit their cash cows. What a joke.

wow what a wanker :rolleyes:

sounds like 4-wheel WWF

The version I read said Gordon's comment was about Kenseth's manhandling of Keslowski. Not sure how much "lauding" went on, either.

That being said, I think Stewart should be banned permanently from all forms of racing.

Stewart killed a fellow driver?

Do you have some sort of inside information/evidence/proof that no one else knows about?

Please share your insight.

That's not in question. He did kill the guy....murder? In anger? Manslaughter? That IS in question. And for some people always will be.

The Roman Colosseum was quite versatile:
It could turn into an oval chariot race.
It could house personal and/or animal battles, en mass.
It could be flooded to recreate historical naval skirmishes.

Dude... you completely missed the subtlety in my reply to EMJ.

Maybe he will respond and it can play out from there as originally intended.

LOL I guess I did.

If a guy on a motorcycle not using his headlights at night ran a red light on across a road that had 60MPH, colliding with a car, and the motorcyclist died from his injuries, would it be appropriate to say the driver of the car killed the motorcyclist?

Maybe you could say the collision killed the motorcyclist for sure, but did the driver? It denotes some blame, even if it is hard to get around using any other term in English. I think it would be more appropriate/correct to say a collision with tony stewart killed ward rather than tony stewart killed ward.

Did Ward rise from the dead? Or is he still dead from Stewart running over him?

I don't think Stewart meant to kill Ward, but this sure didn't do Stewart any favors in the PR department. Especially when you consider Ward's family is highly likely to sue Stewart.