I still don't think it's a certainty that he did.

What are you basing your assertion on?

My thoughts on that here, a few pages back... didn't see a response from you then: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/824701-tony-stewart-not-good-19.html#post8229568

Why do you hate this guy so?

Pardon me. would you happen to have any Grey poupon? :D

Not looking good..

That website seems to be the only one reporting it, in those terms. My spidey sense says that it's not a very credible journalist source. Nate Ryan or Jeff Gluck would be all over this long ago if it had merit.

You guys are either delusional, or you're looking at it through hopeful, sympathetic eyes. He will be indicted by the end of the week.

Red88....you're from the area....do you know something the rest of us don't?


This was a good article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/brad-keselowski---it-kind-of-feels-a-little-bit-like-a-cop-out--that-stewart-case-sent-to-grand-jury-173246866.html

You are correct... I am from the area..............

I guess the next 5 working days will tell...

I would guess 4. Or 5 if you like.

Talk to you on Thursday!

I'm sure there will be alot of talk on Thursday..........

Due process.

You only hate it when it's working against your wishes and/or personal needs.

"We Americans live under the rule of law." This has long been said again and again by 'law and order' types in politics and the media. Often it is a dog-whistle call to political base voters as code for beating up on the other, usually less fortunate tribes and the base loves it. Now a great American hero is under the microscope and people are pissing their pants. Well, we Americans live under the rule of law and we cannot pick and choose when, and to whom it applies. Sometimes it applies to our guy, our tribe, our heroes and we have to suck it up and allow the process to work through to its conclusion.

I don't really have a dog in this race. I still don't think it would take Johnny Cochran to get him off.

And so it begins...

Tony Stewart grand jury proceedings begin - News - MPNnow - Canandaigua, NY

Local news just reported the Grand Jury decided there will be no criminal charges........

Who appears to be the delusional one now? ;)

qfr

Now for the civil suit, there will be one, I guarantee it.

Wow.....read the article on USA today. Not mentioned on CNN....Ward was impaired on MJ.

The grand jury's decision has been confirmed. Ontario County DA Michael Tantillo said the grand jury found "no basis to charge Stewart with a crime."

Tantillo said that more than two dozen witnesses testified before the 23-member grand jury panel, including police, medical officials, track personnel, accident reconstruction experts and others. The grand jury also viewed photos, videos and other evidence, he said.

That Kevin Ward "ran onto a hot track while other cars were racing played a big, big factor" in their decision, Tantillo said.

Tantillo also gave the surprising revelation that Ward was under the influence of marijuana, "enough to impair his judgement" that evening.

Who the hell races a car while high?

I'd want maximum concentration, myself.

Kiss a civil suit goodbye.

I guess it goes without saying that if there is a civil judgement, this will cost the family a buck or two.....

Edit..stomachmonkey beat me to it by this much!

http://static.tumblr.com/1b17af80ded..._henry_wwe.gif

I guess someone should start a new thread entitled,

"Tony Stewart, this is good!" :cool:

So much for all the "know-it-alls" that said TS was guilty.

No Denis, there is really nothing good about it all.


WTF dude

It's awfully good for Tony Stewart.

We are ahead of the game...

Even better for NASCAR. Makes you wonder...

Oh well, it is what it is. Guess I was wrong.

Cue the conspiracy theorists....

I agree...over.

I have no sympathy for a kid that has been gifted with a fast racecar and fortunate enough to race in a great series...that thinks it is ok to get high before a race. in my mind he goes from being an unfortunate victim to a punk.

sorry for being a bit harsh but that is just how I feel.

pcb

Parents have basically said there will be a civil suit. How's that gonna go? Will be an embarrassment to the kids memory.

He wasn't necessarily "racing high"...

He might have done a couple bong hits the night before or even prior to that. THC stays in your system for a long time, doesn't it?

Cleared!!!

I'm no drug expert but I " think " there is a difference in toxicity level from doing a few bong hits the night before compared to "enough to impair his judgement" in his system at the autopsy the day after the incident but I could be wrong.

For sure there is, did they say how much was in him and how it relates to usage?

The sad thing is, I bet that in New York, his parents will sue Tony Steward and despite the fact that their high kid walked in front of his car, he'll still end up paying. That's right, our legal system is so effed up that someone can negligently get themself killed, and the poor SOB that happened to have the misfortune helping them shed their mortal coil gets both the emotional trauma AND gets robbed by the family of the moron.

pot and THC are NONTOXIC

TESTS CAN SHOW USE from measuring by-products
TESTS CAN NOT SHOW IF HI OR HOW HI