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GH85Carrera 09-25-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 8278169)
I have no doubt that James Hunt did this more than a few times. Still, he never got out of his car and stood in front of the guy who hit him, that I know of.

While dressed in a BLACK suit at night!

DanielDudley 09-25-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 8276910)
The sad thing is, I bet that in New York, his parents will sue Tony Steward and despite the fact that their high kid walked in front of his car, he'll still end up paying. That's right, our legal system is so effed up that someone can negligently get themself killed, and the poor SOB that happened to have the misfortune helping them shed their mortal coil gets both the emotional trauma AND gets robbed by the family of the moron.

If anyone sues for damages, the counter suit that one could file would be staggering.

Even, and especially in NY. You ever heard of New York Lawyers ?

JJ 911SC 09-25-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 8278692)
... and especially in NY. You ever heard of New York Lawyers ?

Isnt' the easiest way to become a millionaire in the US.

Screw hard work, plenty of rats to work on contingency...

Nascar will be behind an out of court settlement and increase their prices accordingly.

stomachmonkey 09-25-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 8278692)
If anyone sues for damages, the counter suit that one could file would be staggering.

Even, and especially in NY. You ever heard of New York Lawyers ?

True, Tony could sue for financial losses incurred when he had to bow out of 3 races due to the mental anguish he suffered.

John Rogers 09-25-2014 02:33 PM

I imagine that smoking some "weed" is the equivalent of drinking a few beers before a race back in the 1960's at some of the small dirt tracks we used to race on every Friday and/or Saturday night. As one 'ol boy used to say....."helps me slide through the corners way better"! Once you do it, nothing happens so you do again and so on!

That's why I sold my 914-6 vintage race car as I can not function well without my pain meds and I was noticing that my reactions slow down when I take them soooooo the car got sold before I wrecked.

speeder 09-25-2014 02:37 PM

There are legendary stories of the early days of stock car racing when it was all moonshiners and several drivers were usually either drunk or so hung-over that they might as well have been on tranquilizers. One guy raced with a live monkey jumping round inside the car.

True story.

ZOA NOM 09-25-2014 03:03 PM

Late Wednesday, Ward's parents released a statement, as read over the phone to the Associated Press by Ward's sister, Kayla Herring.

"Our son got out of his car during caution when the race was suspended," the statement said. "All the other vehicles were reducing speed and not accelerating except for Stewart, who intentionally tried to intimidate Kevin by accelerating and sliding his car toward him, causing the tragedy. The focus should be on the actions of Mr. Stewart. This matter is not at rest and we will pursue all remedies in fairness to Kevin."

JJ 911SC 09-25-2014 03:10 PM

New society... It always someone else fault.

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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM (Post 8278785)
... This matter is not at rest and we will pursue all remedies in fairness to Kevin. But we will settle for a million or two..."


herr_oberst 09-25-2014 03:13 PM

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speeder 09-25-2014 03:39 PM

Or maybe they just lost their son and believe that TS is at fault and want him the pay for it. Regardless of what a GJ voted.

Nahhh, can't be. :rolleyes:

speeder 09-25-2014 03:41 PM

... This matter is not at rest and we will pursue all remedies in fairness to Kevin. But we will settle for a million or two..."


Do you have any knowledge that his family is hurting for money? :cool:

Don Ro 09-25-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8278858)
Or maybe they just lost their son and believe that TS is at fault and want him the pay for it. Regardless of what a GJ voted.

Nahhh, can't be. :rolleyes:

Operative word there is "...believe...".

speeder 09-25-2014 03:55 PM

Right, that's what they believe. They may have heard info that the armchair QBs here are unaware of. As opposed to them just being crass, money-grubbing opportunists as someone above suggests. Which is fking classless. They lost a son.

greglepore 09-25-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8278885)
Right, that's what they believe. They may have heard info that the armchair QBs here are unaware of. As opposed to them just being crass, money-grubbing opportunists as someone above suggests. Which is fking classless. They lost a son.

+1 on the "lost a son". Whether they have inside information or not, they're grieving, and not objective. I strongly doubt this is opportunism. What is opportunism is the bashing going on here of both parties when only Stewart and Ward know what happened.

sammyg2 09-25-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 8277638)
Well, 12 of the 23 Grand jurors could not be convinced that a crime was committed so that puts criminal charges to rest. Barring a video of Stewart admitting he was trying to hit him the criminal case is over.


The GJ doesn't decide if a crime was committed or not, they decide if there is enough evidence to support an indictment.
And many of them said no, it would be a waste of taxpayer's money to pursue a losing trial.
Prolly a good thing.

speeder 09-25-2014 05:17 PM

Exactly. Lot of people here don't understand what a GJ does. He was not declared, "innocent". :rolleyes:

chapo 09-25-2014 06:35 PM

Nothing like a bong hit the day of or night before racing a 800 hp 1200 pound car with a wing and a locked rear end. Who's judgement should be questioned?

Heel n Toe 09-25-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM (Post 8278785)
"...and not accelerating except for Stewart, who intentionally tried to intimidate Kevin by accelerating and sliding his car toward him, causing the tragedy. The focus should be on the actions of Mr. Stewart."

Translation: People see what they want to see.

I'm sorry the kid died and I basically only watch NASCAR when they're on road courses and I don't follow and/or pull for any driver, but the video we have all seen does not show that Stewart accelerated... they are connecting a throttle burst on the front straight near the camera with the moment just before the Stewart car passes/hits the kid.

I first had the same impression, but after watching it several times and thinking it through, I changed my mind.

Who knows what is on the other video we haven't seen... maybe it will be released at some point, but apparently it doesn't confirm the "it was Stewart's fault" hypothesis.

speeder 09-25-2014 09:08 PM

Everyone knows that the kid contributed to his own death, the only question is whether TS did as well.

Heel n Toe 09-25-2014 11:13 PM

Yes, Tony Stewart did run over a fellow driver who was killed, but you need to understand the entire situation.
Author: Charly Cropp, a Sprint Car Driver from Menomonie, WI - August 11th 2014

:::snip:::

The track is black and not well lit Stewart is not expecting someone to be in the middle of the track and sees him at the last moment, jabs the brake causing the front of the car to turn left, and twitches the gas to turn the rear of the car to avoid Mr. Ward. (I'm not certain Stewart accelerated. The motor revving in the video seems much closer to the grandstand where the camera was filming and not across the track where the tragedy occurred. Listening to the video, the sound is too close to the camera position to be Stewart in my opinion) No one knows what really happened. I've watched YouTube. It was dark. Ward was wearing a black uniform. My suspicion is that, if Stewart sped up, it was a reflex action. All of a sudden, his eyes caught the approach of someone running toward him, and he just tried to get away, but Ward was too close. The right-rear tire caught him.

:::snip:::

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