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VaSteve 10-05-2014 05:46 PM

I went to the sprint car races last night in PA. I shot this video to see what it looks like for the driver.

World of Outlaws Sprint Car view. - YouTube

EMJ 10-14-2014 07:55 AM

So Stewart gets crashed into by Keselowski on the cool-down lap and angrily floors his car in reverse and bashes Keselowski's front end in. The crowd cheered. Jeff Gordon called Stewart's reaction "awesome" in a post race interview. Really?

Stewart hasn't learned a thing, and is getting a total pass by the media on that one. Already another on track rage incident - regardless if it was provoked or not. You'd think he'd learn.

bivenator 10-14-2014 08:35 AM

I think the track rage in the first incident was attributed to Kevin Ward. It would seem that Tony Stewart learned not to get out of his car to show his displeasure.

flipper35 10-14-2014 09:18 AM

There were several drivers upset at that dip. Keselowski ran into several drivers after the race. Hamlin and Kenseth both tried to knock some sense into him in the garage afterwards. Kenseth is usually pretty hard to rile up.

Buckterrier 10-14-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 8305505)
There were several drivers upset at that dip. Keselowski ran into several drivers after the race. Hamlin and Kenseth both tried to knock some sense into him in the garage afterwards. Kenseth is usually pretty hard to rile up.

Remember boys, NASCAR puts on a show not a race ;)

EMJ 10-14-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 8305505)
There were several drivers upset at that dip. Keselowski ran into several drivers after the race. Hamlin and Kenseth both tried to knock some sense into him in the garage afterwards. Kenseth is usually pretty hard to rile up.

True. BK got what he deserved but I find it odd that 8 weeks removed from killing a fellow driver Stewart's hot headed reaction is called "awesome" by Jeff Gordon and lauded by the fans. The media glossed over Stewart's reaction as well. The guy's a hothead and hasn't learned a thing. I for one am on the side that he certainly didn't do all he could to avoid Ward. Even if the majority of the accident is on Ward.

flipper35 10-14-2014 10:28 AM

I agree that it wasn't awesome. I think you have to be an idiot anymore to qualify for a NASCAR race. There are some guys I had and probably do have some respect for but there are fewer and fewer.

I do think there is money to be made as a pay per view event putting drivers in the ring. I would love to see these little mama's boys get their teeth handed to them.

VaSteve 10-14-2014 11:40 AM

Keselowski is what that sports needs vs Vanilla Jimmie. That was really poor behavior for a past cup champion the other night.

TS had to be INSANE for reacting that way. Sort of like how Zimmerman can't seem to stay out of trouble TS needs to channel his inner Kenseth (on most other nights).

Saturdays race was a real important one for a lot of guys moving to the next level for the end of the chase. Next week is Dega and even if you don't need to win, to stay in the points, you have to stay out of that big wreck. A whole season's work could be wiped out next weekend. Kes and Kenseth I think are on the bubble so they really need to finish well.

BE911SC 10-14-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 8305706)
TS had to be INSANE for reacting that way. Sort of like how Zimmerman can't seem to stay out of trouble TS needs to channel his inner Kenseth (on most other nights).

But being a belligerent hothead is TS's brand. If he cooled it after getting away with the Ward incident then his fans would think he'd become a pussy and maybe not like him anymore. He's merely getting back to his brand: Being an a $$ hole when necessary to please his fans.

*Dollar signs added intentionally.

Schrup 10-14-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 8305524)
Remember boys, NASCAR puts on a show not a race ;)

This appears to be the case, fines & probation for the offenders. They won't sit their cash cows. What a joke.

aston@ultrasw.c 10-14-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 8305351)
So Stewart gets crashed into by Keselowski on the cool-down lap and angrily floors his car in reverse and bashes Keselowski's front end in. The crowd cheered. Jeff Gordon called Stewart's reaction "awesome" in a post race interview. Really?

wow what a wanker :rolleyes:

sounds like 4-wheel WWF

black73 10-14-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 8305533)
True. BK got what he deserved but I find it odd that 8 weeks removed from killing a fellow driver Stewart's hot headed reaction is called "awesome" by Jeff Gordon and lauded by the fans. The media glossed over Stewart's reaction as well. The guy's a hothead and hasn't learned a thing. I for one am on the side that he certainly didn't do all he could to avoid Ward. Even if the majority of the accident is on Ward.

The version I read said Gordon's comment was about Kenseth's manhandling of Keslowski. Not sure how much "lauding" went on, either.

That being said, I think Stewart should be banned permanently from all forms of racing.

Heel n Toe 10-14-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 8305533)
...I find it odd that 8 weeks removed from killing a fellow driver...

Stewart killed a fellow driver?

Do you have some sort of inside information/evidence/proof that no one else knows about?

Please share your insight.

VaSteve 10-14-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 8306130)
Stewart killed a fellow driver?

Do you have some sort of inside information/evidence/proof that no one else knows about?

Please share your insight.

That's not in question. He did kill the guy....murder? In anger? Manslaughter? That IS in question. And for some people always will be.

john70t 10-14-2014 09:46 PM

The Roman Colosseum was quite versatile:
It could turn into an oval chariot race.
It could house personal and/or animal battles, en mass.
It could be flooded to recreate historical naval skirmishes.

Heel n Toe 10-14-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 8306397)
That's not in question. He did kill the guy....murder? In anger? Manslaughter? That IS in question. And for some people always will be.

Dude... you completely missed the subtlety in my reply to EMJ.

Maybe he will respond and it can play out from there as originally intended.

VaSteve 10-15-2014 03:10 AM

LOL I guess I did.

Tervuren 10-15-2014 05:32 AM

If a guy on a motorcycle not using his headlights at night ran a red light on across a road that had 60MPH, colliding with a car, and the motorcyclist died from his injuries, would it be appropriate to say the driver of the car killed the motorcyclist?

Maybe you could say the collision killed the motorcyclist for sure, but did the driver? It denotes some blame, even if it is hard to get around using any other term in English. I think it would be more appropriate/correct to say a collision with tony stewart killed ward rather than tony stewart killed ward.

EMJ 10-15-2014 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 8306552)
Dude... you completely missed the subtlety in my reply to EMJ.

Maybe he will respond and it can play out from there as originally intended.

Did Ward rise from the dead? Or is he still dead from Stewart running over him?

legion 10-15-2014 06:16 AM

I don't think Stewart meant to kill Ward, but this sure didn't do Stewart any favors in the PR department. Especially when you consider Ward's family is highly likely to sue Stewart.


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