learning something about house painting..exterior.

[vash]

like i mentioned in a past thread..my home needs a new exterior coat.

i let it go. i've always thought i would get to it. to dress it up..make it look good. i ended up hiring real pros. the sanders are out and spinning madly. every once in a while, a guy will knock on my door and show me some dry rot. i've changed out 5 boards already. sucks!! i am taking out beaten down redwood siding and installing a pine product.

i now understand that house paint is more than "making it look good"..it is almost as important as the roof shingles. i mean i knew it was for wood protection..i knew that..but somehow it is hitting home for me more now.

i think my guys gave me an accurate estimate. they are sanding like mofos..some walls are going down to pretty much the bare wood. there are coatings i didnt even know existed..these guys estimated up to 3 weeks to do my tiny home.

i'm over it..before they leave, i am getting home paint care tips. i am washing my house regularly..and repainting the sun baked sides. no more doing it when it is beyond healthy.

they are doing such a bang out job, my neighbor across the street is going with them next.

i am trying to work from home some..the noise level is impossible. argh.

[look 171]

Yeah, good painters are worth their weight in gold. Its all in the prep work. Try this stuff for some of your rot that you can't get at. Abatron Building and Restoration Products - Adhesives, Sealants, Coatings & Epoxies. - Abatron, Inc.

Not too many painter or contractors know this co's product but it is one heck of a product. Using it can save a lot of money when total replacement isn't necessary o possible. The forest service uses this stuff for their repairs.

[KFC911]

Vash, It's like the old TV commercial:

"Pay me now, or pay me later"

With several houses and a few of them being older, I KNOW better than to get behind on maintenance. When it comes to exterior paint, I will NOT skimp on quality paint...most of the effort (and $) is in the prep/labor (though I do MOST labor myself). It ain't cheap (around $50/gal) but I won't use anything but Sherwin Williams Duration for exterior paint. Another tip...for minor repairs, etc. Bondo (yep, the car stuff) is awesome....

Bondo + car = Bad
Bondo + minor rot repair = Excellent

I'm just an amateur and the experts can chime in if they don't agree (or there is something even better)

edited: Oops...I hadn't clicked on your link before I posted Look....I see a "pro" has already chimed in....

[vash]

I think my painter showed me that stuff Look.

Bondo. Yup. The last paint guy used some. He didn't seal it that great and it failed. New board went in.

This is very enlightening. I couldn't have done it. Too many tricks to the trade.

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by look 171

Yeah, good painters are worth their weight in gold. Its all in the prep work. Try this stuff for some of your rot that you can't get at. Abatron Building and Restoration Products - Adhesives, Sealants, Coatings & Epoxies. - Abatron, Inc.

Not too many painter or contractors know this co's product but it is one heck of a product. Using it can save a lot of money when total replacement isn't necessary o possible. The forest service uses this stuff for their repairs.

Yep, I found that Abatron product at my local, non-brand name paint store. We have a nearly one hundred year old house with original wood sash windows and French doors. Dry rot had hit a few spots where the window putty had cracked, and this stuff was perfect for the repair of wooden windows that cannot be replaced economically. I highly recommend it.

[look 171]

No Bondo, absolutely not on the exterior (fantastic for interior). Here's the catch, a piece of wood on the exterior expands and contracts greatly especially during winter months (more so up in SF compare to LA) but Bondo does not. Over time, it will push the Bondo pieces out eventually opening up a gap for moisture penetration. Back to square one. Next paint job will require removal of bad Bondo job. Unless he's a good and knowledgeable painter, they will patch and leave attached pieces it in there. The workmen will more then likely leave it and the painter contractor might never know about it. You really have to sleep with one eye open during the prep process. My painter is trained, so he knows to never do stuff like that. PLus, he and his wife does all the work. No workmen=not too many things to worry about.

[GH85Carrera]

I painted a house once. I learned all I ever need to know. I KNOW I will never paint a house myself again. When our current house needs paint, it will get siding instead.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by ossiblue

Yep, I found that Abatron product at my local, non-brand name paint store. We have a nearly one hundred year old house with original wood sash windows and French doors. Dry rot had hit a few spots where the window putty had cracked, and this stuff was perfect for the repair of wooden windows that cannot be replaced economically. I highly recommend it.

I used Abatron on a restoration of a Greene and Greene home on almost all the south side windows and sills about 8 years ago. Its still standing and the damn stuff stayed put and showed no signs of hairline spits where the epoxy meets real wood. I could have made the windows for him in my shop, nooooo, he wanted the original. The same painter (he and his wife) did all the work. It took over a month.

I used their structural epoxy for some repairs at my parent's 1929 Spanish about 10 years ago. We didn't want to screw up the interior, so the structural member stayed. Its holding up fine today.

Abatron isn't cheap, well not as cheap as Bondo that's for sure.

Jeff

[wdfifteen]

Glad for you that you are going down to the basics and doing it right. Half-azsed work can get you by, but it doesn't give the satisfaction of knowing it's done right.

[dad911]

How old is the house? Around here you'd never sand a house built prior to '78 because of lead paint.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by dad911

How old is the house? Around here you'd never sand a house built prior to '78 because of lead paint.

I thought we were bad out in CA. Contractor must have cert. if were sand more then so many inches but we can sand to our heart's content. I just don'tunderstand, how's the new water base paint going to stick to all the peeling old oil base paint? I suppose they want you to do it all again in three years.