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red-beard 09-11-2014 10:53 AM

and Another

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...ns-980x651.jpg

red-beard 09-11-2014 10:54 AM

And pretty thick

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...ew-980x651.jpg

jyl 09-11-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 8257118)
The battery life kills it for me.

Apple Watch will last

Those bloggers don't know the battery life of the phone. No-one outside Apple does.

The best battery life of the current smartwatches, Samsung Gear 2, has been reported at 2-3 days with light use. The worst, Moto 360, has been reported at <12 hours. (Not counting Pebble.)

These phones so far all use roughly the same capacity battery, about 300 mah. The Moto 360 uses an outdated processor that consumes a lot more power than the newest ones. Apple is using a new custom processor and I'd hope it is as power-efficient as the best processor Samsung has. The Moto 360's battery life was improved a lot - like more than 2X - as the Motorola engineers finetuned the software (per DC Rainmaker test). How often the screen is on, how bright it is, how much the processor sleeps, how often it wakes to do things like take your pulse, how much work is offloaded from the main processor to much smaller and lower-power chips (e.g. sensor hubs monitor and store accelerometer data and pass it to the main processor when it awakens, so that the main processor can sleep more), all these make a big difference to battery life. Also how you use the watch makes a big difference, just like it does with smartphones.

My hope is that Apple is tuning power consumption, so that the battery life will be longer at launch than it is today, and that it can at least beat the Samsung.

jyl 09-11-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 8257283)
OK, so it is IP54. They SAY you can run in rain with it. But the iPhone is also IP54, and people working out can activate the moisture indicator ~ voided warranty.

IP Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You really want a WORKOUT watch which you can't get wet? Deal breaker.

It needs to tolerate rain and splashes. I don't think it absolutely needs to tolerate showering, but that would sure be nice.

jyl 09-11-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 8257235)
Counterpoint: Pockets and purses are not going away anytime soon. So the need to eliminate the 'shortcomings' of a product that requires a pocket or purse (or armband for the atheletes out there) isn't a big selling point.

You can argue that you free up pocket space with the smartwatch - but for what purpose?
- To put money in there instead? No - you will be using Apple Pay, Google Pay, or some other NFC technology.
- To put your keys in your pocket? No - your smartphone will have the ability to unlock your house and car doors, and start your car.
- To put notes in your pocket? No - all smartphones have digital notepads.

So a smartwatch will eliminate the need for a pocket - but unless you are part of a nudist colony, your pocket won't be going anywhere soon... So to me, this argument holds no lint (but my pocket does!!) :D

-Z-man.

Not everyone wears jackets, baggies and cargo shorts everywhere. Dresses and skirts have no pockets, yoga pants ditto, skinny jeans only have pockets in theory, etc.

In your scenario - don't need pockets for money, keys, or notes because all these are handled by the smartphone - well then, if the only reason clothes have pockets is to hold the smartphone, then we're only one step from doing away with the need for pockets altogether!

BlueSkyJaunte 09-11-2014 11:18 AM

That thing is tragically hideous. It's like something from a Duplo set.

nostatic 09-11-2014 11:21 AM

I bought one of these - not Duplo. It doesn't talk to my phone...and that's...ok...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachm...ilton-1004.jpg

red-beard 09-11-2014 11:23 AM

Here are some comparison shots with the Sony SW2

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410463262.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410463282.jpg

And side by side showing the thickness

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410463322.jpg

red-beard 09-11-2014 11:26 AM

I don't think I have my image scaled down enough.

rayng 09-11-2014 11:38 AM

i don't want to wear a watch, but the wife insists i'd get one so i can't "accidentally not hear" her texts or phone calls.

this watch is a man shackle.

enzo1 09-11-2014 11:39 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410464382.jpg

red-beard 09-11-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 8257361)
The best battery life of the current smartwatches, Samsung Gear 2, has been reported at 2-3 days with light use. The worst, Moto 360, has been reported at <12 hours. (Not counting Pebble.)

My hope is that Apple is tuning power consumption, so that the battery life will be longer at launch than it is today, and that it can at least beat the Samsung.

I don't have a Gear 2, only a Gearfit. The Gearfit turns the screen off. When you turn it to look at it, it will auto turn on for a few seconds.

The SW2 keeps part of the LCD operational all the time, but with the backlighting off. You end up with a "black and white" display of the watch face all the time. Pressing the button on the side turns on the backlighting. Pressing the "home" button brings up the other functions.

Both of them will pop-up messages (SMS, E-mail, Facebook, etc.) and allow review. Both allow you to answer the phone, but neither is a two-way communicator. The Gear 2 can do this. The SW2 does have a microphone which allows use of Google Voice.

One neat application for the SW2 is Camera control. It forwards the camera image to the phone and allows operating the shutter. I also like the QR code display.

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red-beard 09-11-2014 11:41 AM

Enzo, I think that is on a childs arm.

red-beard 09-11-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayng (Post 8257402)
i don't want to wear a watch, but the wife insists i'd get one so i can't "accidentally not hear" her texts or phone calls.

this watch is a man shackle.

It does do that!

Z-man 09-11-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 8257379)
In your scenario - don't need pockets for money, keys, or notes because all these are handled by the smartphone - well then, if the only reason clothes have pockets is to hold the smartphone, then we're only one step from doing away with the need for pockets altogether!

Oh yeah -- then we can bring back the jumpsuit!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HR0pfhSSKE...rMen_1970s.jpg

Ok - while those jumpsuits technically have pockets - you wouldn't want to put anything in them to take away from the asthetics...

There is no better fashion statement than a baby-blue jumpsuit complemented by a smartwatch with a matching babyblue band!! :D

-Z

nostatic 09-11-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 8257432)
Oh yeah -- then we can bring back the jumpsuit!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HR0pfhSSKE...rMen_1970s.jpg


-Z

Paging Jeremy - we've found your new touring stage wardrobe!

red-beard 09-11-2014 12:05 PM

Or maybe outfits for the LeMons races...

herr_oberst 09-11-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 8257432)

Is that Jon Voight?

(This looks like something Bob Guccione invented.)

JavaBrewer 09-11-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 8257337)

That color combo is going to sell huge in Hillcrest. Even bigger in Japan where even the straight guys in suits and ties have anime charms dangling from their mobile phones.

Richard is right now ordering one with a white strap to match his shades ;)

sc_rufctr 09-11-2014 02:27 PM

The lady I'm dating wants this one. Seems she has a thing for rose gold and pink ;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410474446.jpg


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