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Geronimo '74 10-04-2014 09:07 AM

The boooshcraft thread
 
I've been looking into bushcraft and bushcrafting skills and tools lately.
Got my first axe today, a Gränfors 420 small wildernes axe.
Hopefully my Kabar Becker BK2 knife will be on its way soon, if customs allow it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412442371.jpg

Any buschrafters on the board?
I'm a newb, but i'm signing up for a long weekend in the woods.
Care to share tips on which tools to get/ not to get?

Geronimo '74 10-04-2014 09:13 AM

Damn, wrong forum....

Mods please move this to OT

livi 10-04-2014 09:13 AM

Ah, a Swedish quality axe. Excellent choice. :)

Geronimo '74 10-04-2014 09:20 AM

I did my research. Granfors axes are high quality stuff, and razor sharp!

A buddy of mine does survival trips in sweden. He's organising one for november, no tents allowed!!
That is too cold for me!❄️

craigster59 10-04-2014 09:24 AM

I used to do it in the late 80's. This is a good old book, Nessmuk wrote articles in the early 1900's, people were already trying to flee technology and the hectic life!
The Project Gutenberg eBook of Woodcraft, by Nessmuk.

This is another good one if you don't already have it...
http://www.amazon.com/Browns-Field-Guide-Wilderness-Survival/dp/0425105725

craigster59 10-04-2014 09:28 AM

For brick and mortar breed filth and crime,
With a pulse of evil that throbs and beats;
And men are withered before their prime
By the curse paved in with the lanes and streets.
And lungs are poisoned and shoulders bowed,
In the smothering reek of mill and mine;
And death stalks in on the struggling crowd—
But he shuns the shadow of oak and pine.
NESSMUK.

fintstone 10-04-2014 10:54 AM

If you are only going for long weekends, I would minize the tools...unless you are building a house or soing out for weeks at a time.

Tools are cool, but not necessary (other than a knife)...and heavy if hiking. You do need something to transport water or to make it drinkable (unless you are camping near good water). Something to start a fire with (flint and steel, waterproof matches)...and food (unless you want to gather your own).

livi 10-04-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 8291561)
I did my research. Granfors axes are high quality stuff, and razor sharp!

A buddy of mine does survival trips in sweden. He's organising one for november, no tents allowed!!
That is too cold for me!❄️

Yup. Tents in Sweden in November is for girl scouts. Pff... :rolleyes:

Me, I am in a hotel lobby by the nice fire Place on a fake bear skin. :D

Geronimo '74 10-05-2014 01:18 AM

Has this been moved to OT or not.
I can only see my thread in parf...

craigster59 10-05-2014 06:57 AM

I think as long as it has the word "Bush" in the thread, it stays in PARF. :)

tabs 10-05-2014 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 8291676)
Yup. Tents in Sweden in November is for girl scouts. Pff... :rolleyes:

Me, I am in a hotel lobby by the nice fire Place on a fake bear skin. :D

Now that is my idea of roughing it, along with a nice hot Toddy or sniffter of Cognac for you eu's, and of course the 6 ft blond haired grey eyed Swedish beauty to keep me warm and entertained on that faux Bear Skin...

Oh fking yeah and IT IS ALL BUSH's FAULT....

fintstone 10-05-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 8292346)
Has this been moved to OT or not.
I can only see my thread in parf...

The mods won't even come here...so they will never see you asking to move this. That 'Please move this" bit only works the other way.

RANDY P 10-05-2014 08:27 AM

Bet it would work great for scaring other hikers at night. :)

fintstone 10-05-2014 10:34 AM

I don't think he likes us here...and we have been such gentlemen.

No, I would not wear the fake bearskin rug in the woods...even with body armor underneath. Reminds me of the zombie movie where Bill Murray put on some makeup and pretended he was a zombie as a joke. Got the double tap.

fintstone 10-05-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 8292580)
The mods won't even come here...so they will never see you asking to move this. That 'Please move this" bit only works the other way.

LOL...knew that would get it moved.

Geronimo '74 10-05-2014 10:35 PM

ok guys, thanks for the links and the tips.
I think I will re-make this thread in regular OT because I know a lot of people from there won't come over to the dark side...

Geronimo '74 10-05-2014 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 8292501)
I think as long as it has the word "Bush" in the thread, it stays in PARF. :)

I think you could be right....:rolleyes:
Made this thread three times already, and it keeps ending up in PARF....

Geronimo '74 10-05-2014 11:09 PM

The booshcraft thread
 
I've been looking into bushcraft and bushcrafting skills and tools lately.
Got my first axe today, a Gränfors 420 small wildernes axe.
Hopefully my Kabar Becker BK2 knife will be on its way soon, if customs allow it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412579303.jpg


Any buschrafters on the board?
I'm a newb, but i'm signing up for a long weekend in the woods.
Care to share tips on which tools to get/ not to get?

I'd love to see pics of your outdoor knives, tools, equipment.


(this is the freaking fourth time I made this thread.... forum filters always place it in PARF so I had to write 'booshcraft' instead of 'bushcraft'.... :rolleyes:

futuresoptions 10-06-2014 12:38 AM

The Kabar's nice, keep it on your side. The hatchet you purchased is cool, hang it on the wall for decoration and get you one of these...

Estwing Camper's Axe with Sheath

Don't use your Kabar for splitting wood or rough use. Get one of these. They are cheap and they are one of the hardest knives to kill that you will find.

Classic Bowie Knife Rough Use 13.5" Overall Length Black Thick 8" 440 Stainless Steel Blade With Nylon Sheath

A magnesium transmission end cap with broken dog ears (Think 914) can be had cheap and will give you a lifetime supply of filings for fire starting. (No need to purchase any fancy fire starting kits). You can purchase a huge ferro rod here that will last you for the rest of your life for a lot cheaper than one of those dinky kits.

Ferro Rods and Fire Starters - Ferro Rods, Survival and Camping

Other than that, have fun and be safe! SmileWavy

white85carrera 10-06-2014 02:40 AM

Solo Four Day Hunting & Bushcraft - YouTube

Mcqbushcraft has an awesome YouTube series on all things bushcrafty.

The BK2 is a mighty knife but I get more use out of the 9.

I'm eyeing the same Granfors.

Geronimo '74 10-06-2014 04:10 AM

Bill,

Becker BK2 not for rough use or splitting wood?? Man, you should see on the beckerforum what kind of abuse these knives take and then ask for more....
(check this out! Putting the BK2 to the test, so you don't have to...)
A quarter inch thick piece of 1095CrVan steel should take a lot of abuse really well, I reckon..

And my Gränfors axe is a preferred axe of many bushcrafters, including Ray Mears...

I think you are underestimating the BK2. (I did do some research before I bought it)

Good tip on the 914 transmissioncap!


Jim,

My axe is a 420 small forest axe. (cost me about 75 euro/55usd)
already following MCQ, he makes good videos.
I'm still looking for a good machete, preferably a Kabar becker BK6. (Hard to find)

fintstone 10-06-2014 05:14 AM

Not sure why you would need these tools for a weekend campout in Belgium. The forests in the areas that I have visited there had little need for either s machete or axe...unless you plan on building a more permanent shelter.

Geronimo '74 10-06-2014 05:26 AM

Not buying these things for only one weekend, I plan to do more trips, not limited to belgium

Crowbob 10-06-2014 05:47 AM

My idea of roughing it is a hotel room without a hot tub.

RF5BPilot 10-06-2014 05:47 AM

Used to do camping via horseback. Above looks a lot like the Hudson Bay Ax that we used to like so much.

vash 10-06-2014 06:09 AM

The booshcraft thread
 
I don't bushcraft. I figured it's just the UK version of learning survival skills?

The 420 is the small forest axe right? I have one. It blows doors on any mass produced Estwing.
I wiped the handle down with a homemade beeswax and mineral oil paste. Darkened it. Blood rinsed off easy. The axe barely dulls. I picked up a Wetterlings small hatchet as well. Fits in my hunt pack better.

My next knife will be custom scandi.

futuresoptions 10-06-2014 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 8293469)
Bill,

Becker BK2 not for rough use or splitting wood?? Man, you should see on the beckerforum what kind of abuse these knives take and then ask for more....
(check this out! Putting the BK2 to the test, so you don't have to...)
A quarter inch thick piece of 1095CrVan steel should take a lot of abuse really well, I reckon..

And my Gränfors axe is a preferred axe of many bushcrafters, including Ray Mears...

I think you are underestimating the BK2. (I did do some research before I bought it)

Good tip on the 914 transmissioncap!


Jim,

My axe is a 420 small forest axe. (cost me about 75 euro/55usd)
already following MCQ, he makes good videos.
I'm still looking for a good machete, preferably a Kabar becker BK6. (Hard to find)


Not knocking the BK2, it is a great knife. Think of the Cheaper than dirt rough use knife as a sacrificial anode.

GH85Carrera 10-06-2014 08:11 AM

I always stay at hotels with WIFI.
I presume bushcraft would be an hotel with no internet or no hi-def TV?
Yuck.

Next you are going to say something horrible like no central heat or air conditioning. The horrors!

vash 10-06-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8293783)
I always stay at hotels with WIFI.
I presume bushcraft would be an hotel with no internet or no hi-def TV?
Yuck.

Next you are going to say something horrible like no central heat or air conditioning. The horrors!


What about itchy low thread count sheets?

porsche4life 10-06-2014 08:37 AM

I went hiking this weekend with just my leatherman and a CRKT folding knife.... Didn't even need the leatherman!

Seriously, all these big blades are not required to enjoy wilderness, and anything you do with that hatchet is going to alter the wilderness in some way, which is a big no-no for good leave no trace camping practices.

nostatic 10-06-2014 08:43 AM

I merged the threads - evidently the parf algorithms thought this was a political post.

GH85Carrera 10-06-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 8293809)
What about itchy low thread count sheets?

Oh the the huge manatee!

Or no refrigerator in the room!

Geronimo '74 10-06-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8293828)
I went hiking this weekend with just my leatherman and a CRKT folding knife.... Didn't even need the leatherman!

Seriously, all these big blades are not required to enjoy wilderness, and anything you do with that hatchet is going to alter the wilderness in some way, which is a big no-no for good leave no trace camping practices.


From what i've read, a knife and an axe are essential tools.
We're just a group of guys camping in the woods, we're not loggers so no trees will be harmed....;)
To split logs for a campfire a leatherman isn't going to make it...

Geronimo '74 10-06-2014 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuresoptions (Post 8293728)
Not knocking the BK2, it is a great knife. Think of the Cheaper than dirt rough use knife as a sacrificial anode.

I get your point but a bk2 doesn't require pampering.
And it is not too expensive to replace if needed

Geronimo '74 10-06-2014 10:42 PM

My BK2 has cleared US customs and is on its way! Big thanks to SloDave!!!!
(now it just needs to pass Belgian customs... :rolleyes:)

kabar awesomness!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412664133.jpg

porsche4life 10-07-2014 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 8293990)
From what i've read, a knife and an axe are essential tools.
We're just a group of guys camping in the woods, we're not loggers so no trees will be harmed....;)
To split logs for a campfire a leatherman isn't going to make it...

In most of the western US campfires are a no go, and have been for a while due to drought conditions! ;). But I've built a lot of campfires in my day, and if you do it right you don't need to split no stinking wood. ;)

Do what you want G, but you don't need to spend tons do money on fancy blades to survive in the woods. That's one of my pet peeves right now, all these "survival" shows showing these idiots going out and hacking everything in sight making people think that is acceptable, and that everyone needs to know how to do all of that. Better bet is to poney up for a nice pack(if hiking) and a good tent and sleeping bag. Those items will make your life less miserable, and a good tent and sleeping bag will save your life in the colder months.

Geronimo '74 10-07-2014 03:37 AM

I didn't spend tons of money, Sid.
55 bucks on an axe and 80 or so on the BK2.

People don't need spoons to survive either, still you 'mericans can't get enough of them...SmileWavy

Outback Porsche 10-07-2014 04:18 AM

The chainsaw often comes out for weekend trips. The ironbark and mulga take too long to cut with an axe (then the beer gets warm).

vash 10-07-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8295028)
In most of the western US campfires are a no go, and have been for a while due to drought conditions! ;). But I've built a lot of campfires in my day, and if you do it right you don't need to split no stinking wood. ;)

Do what you want G, but you don't need to spend tons do money on fancy blades to survive in the woods. That's one of my pet peeves right now, all these "survival" shows showing these idiots going out and hacking everything in sight making people think that is acceptable, and that everyone needs to know how to do all of that. Better bet is to poney up for a nice pack(if hiking) and a good tent and sleeping bag. Those items will make your life less miserable, and a good tent and sleeping bag will save your life in the colder months.

it's an "interest" or hobby. i know a fool that loves learning about knots. he memorizes them, and can whip up some crazy ass ****. i bet i can get 99% of my loads tied down with a couple of square knots...some guys just have interest.

bushcrafting. (call it survival skills, whatever) is anything from learning how to keep a tool sharp, and using it..starting fires.. nobody advocates chopping down trees and stuff..more about how not to put a short axe into your thigh. some stuff i dont understand..like making those feather sticks...sure,whatever.

but watching a few videos, have been pretty fun. i've passed on a few axe tips that have saved a few injuries with my knucklehead friends. i have a friend on 200 acres up north..he wants to let me drop a tree "old school" axe work. he says he does it everyonce in a while and it is a rush..nerve racking. i'm not so sure of this..this guys mantra is "safety third".

but OP..you stole that axe. that small forest axe is $150 here, if you can even get it.

vash 10-07-2014 07:24 AM

oh..i am digging my MORA knife. i'd put it up against any better blade. it is truly my most sharp knife. it is like a scalpel. it would shave my leg hairs. i cut a rib cage out of a deer with it. just pushed it thru the soft part where they connect. zip zip zip. it stayed sharp the entire beast. i brought it home, and put the edge back and beyond factory. the scandi grind is really the best grind to get sharp for the knife sharpening challenged. (me)

i love it so much, i havent pulled the trigger on a custom scandi grind knife. there are some amazing ones out there. LOVE THE SCANDI!


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