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Sunroof 10-08-2002 05:42 AM

Any sailors onboard?
 
Just curious folks..............I have seen posts on aviation to Doctors so I thought I would ask the big question that has me curious..............anyone sail, own sailboats or liveaboard?

I lived aboard for several years after selling the house, cars and a giant give it away garage sale..............it was fantastic and I continue to sail this day, but sadly in a lake!!! You California folks are lucky.

Sailing goes with the independent Porsche spirit.............like Bogart said, "ya want to experience god?, go sailing".

Regards
Bob
73.5T

Lake Allatoona, Georgia

jluetjen 10-08-2002 05:53 AM

Ahoy!
 
Yup - I'm a sailer. Strictly fresh-water though. I've got an old Force-5 and recently a Hobie 16. I just haven't had time to take the Hobie out yet. I guess my taste in boats is like my tastes in 911. Older models with racing a racing lineage are a lot more fun then modern, easy to live with types. The important thing is that have to love it when you're using them "on the edge".SmileWavy

Jim Richards 10-08-2002 05:58 AM

I'm another one. This past spring I downsized from my J/22 to an Albacore so that my wife and I can sail/race on the Potomac River. That's much closer to our home and work than Annapolis.

724doorE 10-08-2002 06:07 AM

I used to run the powerplant for a power cruiser that was 1100 feet long and had four screws at 78,000hp each, but then again I signed a piece of paper that said I can't remember that:eek: :confused:

any guesses?

DByers 10-08-2002 06:10 AM

Havent sailed in a couple of years but my Dad used to take us all the time. Sabots when we were young then graduated to Nacra 5.2s. Sailed alot on my Dads Wilderness 21. Plan on getting back on the water now that my son is old enough. Good thing about Santa Barbara, pretty much year round sailing.

Jim Richards 10-08-2002 06:15 AM

Bob (Sunroof), I noticed that you sail on Lake Allatoona. I used to live in Norcross and sailed/raced my J/22 on Lake Lanier. Lots of fun but sometimes not much wind, but that's lake sailing for you!

Sunroof 10-08-2002 06:19 AM

I am selling my Hunter 26 to move up to a Catalina 30 or 34 then heading back to the coast to cruise again. Anyone in the southeast looking for a sailboat?

If you ever want the experience of a lifetime.........cruise the intracoastal waterway from Florida to the Chesapeake. Or just drift in the Florida Keyes and get your fill of lobster!

Fair Winds

Bob:D

Mark Wilson 10-08-2002 06:20 AM

I used to crew on Prindle 16's and 18-2's for races all over TX. That was a rush. I've owned a Prindle 16, Catalina 22, and a couple Daggers. I have the best of all worlds now. Two of my best friends own nice boats - a Catalina 30, and a San Juan 28. All the sailing I want, none of the maintenance or cost.

David McLaughlin 10-08-2002 06:25 AM

I used to be a sailer.

When my Dad past away, I inhareted the 25' Seidleman Sloop that he purchased a year before. I had plans of rebuilding the boat to be a more comfortable cruiser, but after I had my first boy, my wife and family figured it was time to sell the boat. They said that a boat was no place to raise a family... despite the fact that I spent much of my childhood onboard a power cruiser. The way I saw it, I had to do what I thought my Dad would do if he sold the boat (and still had some eye sight left); I had to buy a sports car. Thus the reason why I now own my Porsche.

When my boys get older, I'll buy another boat. I want something a bit bigger than before though, maybe something in the 35' range that is small enough to be a day sailer but large enough to cruise to the BVIs and West Indies. I really want a Beneteau First or Oceanis series boat if I had my choice.

"Mother mother ocean, I have heard you call..."

Overpaid Slacker 10-08-2002 06:35 AM

I race yachts weekends and a couple of weeks a year.
Currently I'm the mastman for a Swan 51, which is a beautiful boat to begin with, and this one is a particularly nice specimen. I don't own the boat, obviously -- I'm not obscenely overpaid.

I do some day racing, some blue water stuff, mostly out of Greenwich or Newport. I used to race dinghies and catamarans while in school, but now the smallest boat I race is an Echells, which is about as much fun as you can possibly have in foul weather gear.

Dennis -- CVN 65 or 68-76? Probably running MFI with that kind of power...

JP

Lothar 10-08-2002 06:52 AM

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I too am a sailor, but not recently. I owned a '72 Morgan 27 that I raced on Lake Norman (just north of Charlotte, NC). Unfortunately, Hurricane Hugo sent that boat to Davy Jones' Locker. I then bought a 1981 Olson 30 that I raced in a PHRF fleet out of Beaufort, NC. 1981 was a year when Olson's were still being built in Santa Cruz as an ultralight racing boat.

I sold the Olson in 1994 and have sailed a bit in smaller boats.

Here's a pic of the Olson and crew from the 1992 NCYRA Championships held in Beaufort, NC

724doorE 10-08-2002 06:53 AM

JP, my dad was on CVN-65, I was on CVN-70... You'd be surprised what that monster can do....;)

BTW, he was an airdale and I was an MM in the reactor plant. We do enjoy the associated ribbing:D

Sunroof 10-08-2002 07:12 AM

Hey Dave.....
Do not be reluctant to raise a kid onboard. Part of the liveaboard equation for me was to take my 2 year old son and live aboard for several years. When I abruptly quite my job and took off (on a 35 Coronado ketch) in St. Augustine, I learned to be an electrician, plumber, marine diesel mechanic and sail maker VERY quickly!!! My son loved it and it was FANTASTIC. We met dozens of kids living aboard and they were as steady as ever. Talk about building character and self-reliance.

We are primed and ready to do it again 15years later, but unfortunately, selling the 911 will be part of the new equation.

Bob

"no cannons to thunder, no treasure to plunder"

ttweed 10-08-2002 07:17 AM

Re: Any sailors onboard?
 
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Originally posted by Sunroof
Just curious folks..............I have seen posts on aviation to Doctors so I thought I would ask the big question that has me curious..............anyone sail, own sailboats or liveaboard?

Yowser, been sailing off and on since age 12. San Diego is a perfect place for that (witness Dennis Conner, et al....)

Built my own cruising cutter back in the late 70s, and a couple years ago, I took my scrapbook digital and put up some web pages documenting the 5-year project. The direct URL is http://members.rennlist.com/tweedt/boat.htm if you're interested.

If you look closely, in the first pic, my '67S is parked in the garage behind my old Dodge truck. This was when it still belonged to my father, who bought it new in 1967, but when my stepmother had stupidly had it painted RED from it's original white (to which it has been restored since).

Also, there's a world class sailor here in SD named Tim Hahnke who races a Cup car in PCA and POC events. I think he even raced briefly in the Speedvision GT series. Here's a pic of him at the CA Speedway event last May.
http://members.rennlist.com/tweedt/hahnke.jpeg

Pauli33 10-08-2002 07:18 AM

although not an experience sailor, i've definitely done some and enjoyed the hell out of it... if you ever have the chance i'd highly recomend the british virgin islands.... some of the best sailing in the caribbean - absolutely amazing.

cheers...

PeteBrown 10-08-2002 07:20 AM

Used to sail with my inlaws on Lake St. Clair and the North Channel on their Bristol 43.3 which was the most beautiful saillboat I've ever been on. Unfortunately a double hip replacement forced its sale.

Sunroof 10-08-2002 07:37 AM

Wow TT..........that fantastic! Reminds me of the Stonehorse. I have read and heard so many stories about building your own boat, especially wood, and for cruising. It takes a special talent and I have to congradulate you a beautiful vessel.

Check out the movie "coaster" sometime.

Bob

osidak 10-08-2002 07:44 AM

I have a 26 foot Pearson One design. Great boat and I try to spend as much time in the water as possible during fall and spring. Lothar I keep the boat at lake norman as well.

JeremyD 10-08-2002 07:48 AM

How cool is this - Porsches and Sailboats... Been sailing ever since I was six - 39 now. I forgot what number boat I am on (#9 I think) - but my current boat is a San Juan 24 that I totally rebuilt. Here is a picture in my back yard.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jdixon1636/lift.jpg

I have found that sailing (especially racing) is great for driving, you learn to be smooth through the curves, carry momentum, etc...

BTW - Catamarans are straight line fast but not maneuverable enough IMO to be compared to a 911 – try a 505 on a “fire hose” plane with the chute out and on the trapeze in 25 knots of wind. Then you will find god…

MotoSook 10-08-2002 08:07 AM

How timely. I just read Peter Egan's article in Road and Track about the thing that attracts us to our cars and sailboats. In it he talks about the beauty of cars and sailboats.

Although not a sailor, I have been fantasizing about the day when I can own a sailboat on Lake Michigan. For now the the 911 will do.

930Chas 10-08-2002 08:09 AM

I too have sailed my entire life, growing up in Ventura County with the Channel Islands easily accesible made for some great sailing. But, more importantly, my grandad is an avid sailor. As a kid, I would spend the weekends with him on the boat and we would sail all day. He is 84 now, and still sails almost everyday. There is nothing like the calm of sailing on a beautiful day, just the breeze, waves and the seagulls to listen to. It doesn't get better then that. Lately, I just crew on friend's boats. Last time crewed a swan 44 down in the virgin islands, that was tough living. Now, though don't own a sailboat, just a 20' Mako center console for those early morning fishing trips out on the Chesapeake Bay.

surflvr911sc 10-08-2002 08:12 AM

I learned to sail when I was thirteen and have owned catamarans ever since. I have a Hobie 16 now, and the last three. I broke one real good one time. Snapped the hull almost in two, that made for a fun half-second ride. It was pretty funny, floated around for a couple hours before some came by to give me a tow.

Haven’t been out in the water w/ it for a while, starting to get the itch though. Small one or two person catamarans are the Porsches of sailing IMO.

Savage 10-08-2002 08:15 AM

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Been racing boats since I was 5. Thistles, Lightnings, Interlakes and PHRF and IOR. 1 911, 5 Boats. Started my daughter in an opti at 3. My plate reads SAIL FST. Sailing and Porsches do go well together.:D

DavidPorter 10-08-2002 08:41 AM

Been sailing off and on 40 years, still racing Thursday nights in Baltimore (J22s, local club).

Randy W 10-08-2002 08:50 AM

I still have my Hobie 14, which I bought new when I was in college in 1976. Seems like I never have time to sail it lately since I've been autocrossing my 911s. I have fond memories of sailing from St. Martin to St. Barts and back in 1986 on a 50' ketch - boy what a party we had that night.

Argo 10-08-2002 08:54 AM

Race / weekend / day sail my J27. Absolutely beautiful boat with performance that surprises and annoys most supposedly faster boats. Kind of like my Targa.

J Boats - the Porsches of waterworld.

Argo
88 Targa

carnut169 10-08-2002 09:28 AM

TTweed- oh my god. What an accomplishment. For those of you who do not know what I am talking about take a min to read the story of TTweed building his own boat. It is worth the read.
Did your Dad ever get a chance to go out in the boat? It must have just broke your heart to sell it. Ever consider trying to find the boat and buy it back? With the amount of thought and care that went into making it I can't imagine it is not cruising around somewhere.
Anyway, thanks for the story.

carnut169 10-08-2002 09:32 AM

Check out these photos:
From this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/tolmold.jpg <p>
to this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/tollaunch.jpg <p>
I also liked the group you were hanging with- bunch of hippies!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/tolturn2.jpg

78silversc 10-08-2002 09:42 AM

Great to see that there are so many sailers here! I race a J29 in the Raritan Bay, New Jersey. Have been for the past 4 years. I started sailing 25 years ago on a Hobie 16 on Saratoga Lake , Saratoga New York. When I moved to NJ 18 years ago, I was introduced to the venerable J24, I learned foredeck on that boat and loved every minute!
The J29 is a great PHRF racer and loads of fun in heavy air, not a boat you want to take on any lengthy cruises though!
If any of you guys are in NJ and can sale Wednesday Nights (5pm -) and some weekends, let me know we are always looking for crew!

pbs911 10-08-2002 09:57 AM

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Not sailing, but my most recent hobbie/sport. My goal for next August is to compete in the race from Newport Beach to Catalina - 26 miles.

SK 10-08-2002 10:39 AM

You will like this.
I grew up sailing. My dad had a C&C until a few years after I moved away to school....closer to the lake than he was, so I used his boat more that he did. So, he sold it and bough a very nice '85 coupe. When he sold it I took up windsurfing (for the speed rush). Well 10 years later, I talked him out of that nice coupe, and it has been mine for the last 4 years. (still have my Laser, and still love to windsurf...but only on days that are blowing 20+.....I drive my car on low wind days :D )

Sunroof 10-08-2002 10:50 AM

Hey Tom.
I went back and read the documentation on Tolerance. Man, what a magnificent vessel and what a talent you have. Your a blessed man.

Do not give up the idea of cruising and living aboard. Although I did not build a boat I did sell everything I had and took a small family on an adventure of peril, unknown and the ultimate high.

We were coastal cruisers with runs to the Bahamas and zipping out of inlets here and their along the Atlantic and Gulf as desired. The vessel "Rozinante" built by Coronado Yachts was our home for almost three years and when it was time to get back to terra firma we all bounced back very well.

After so many years and incredible memories that will forever remain, we are planning to go again in the next year or so. Our kids are grown so our needs aboard are fewer and thus requires a smaller vessel.

For anyone considering moving aboard.......its a wonderful experience shared by thousands out there. If your tettering, go for it.....after all life is not a dress rehersal!!!

Bob

arcsine 10-08-2002 11:18 AM

I have been racing pretty obsessively for the last five or six years. I do not own a boat and simply coattail along with those that have the resources and dedication to race.

I am not very good at cruising mostly because I get bored. Lets face it, sailing (even at the AC level) is a pretty slow process. Unless of course you are doing the Volvo Ocean Race and blast reaching at 25 knots through the growlers of the Southern Ocean but that is a different story.

Here are some pics of my latest ride, a Cookson 12M out of New Zealand. It is quite a hoot.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...te Cloud 1.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...te Cloud 2.jpg

RickC 10-08-2002 11:24 AM

Yup, love to sail. Grew up on Lake Michigan and spent 10 years in San Diego. Sailed summers with Culver Military Academy in Indiana on everything from lightnings to a three masted square-rigger (the Fowler). Still into small boats - Laser, Hobie 16 and a new Starboard windsurfer on order. Hope to add a larger boat for more adventure when the three kids are older.

GeorgeM 10-08-2002 11:32 AM

I've spent much of my life on the big grey flattop variety as well.

Fortunately, I get to fly off them on a regular basis. I have just under three years of "sea time" (actual days at sea). That's three whole years away from home at sea. Ouch!

CV-59, CVN-70, CVN-72 and CV-67.

Dennis, when were you on Vinson?

Harold_89_911 10-08-2002 11:46 AM

I grew up in Holland with lots of water and wind around me. Used to own a 470 (Olympic class) as a teenager. When I went to college, got into windsurfing (longboards first and later into sinkers). Still have my gear with me in California but pretty much broke everything but the board in pieces due to some nasty beach breaks. Would love to take another trip to Hawaii go get back into it.

KFC911 10-08-2002 12:07 PM

Although I consider myself a novice sailor, I've spent a fair amount of time on a friend's '30 Morgan on the St. John's river in Jax. Fla, but a real treat for me has been the couple of times I've had the pleasure of crewing on this '70 wooden schooner in San Diego harbor & the Pacific. Porsches & sailing...what a combo!

sleepdoc 10-08-2002 12:23 PM

open ocean
 
Hi

When I got married my wife was at UC Santa Cruz and I was working in Salinas. Every day I drove the porsche down highway one past a no name boat harbor with live aboards. I started thinking about buying a boat and moving aboard. I gently pitched the idea to my wife and she tentatively bought into the idea. We looked up and down the pacific coast for about a year before we bought a Hylas 44 in San Diego. We moved it to Monterey and lived aboard for five years. Each weekend rain or shine we took Solace out onto Monterey bay, essentially open ocean. We took her down the coast to the channel islands twice. After five years the lure of going just got to be too much and Sarah, a friend of hers and I headed offshore to Hawaii. After a sixteen day glorious downwind reach we pulled into Hilo.
We intended to stop off in Hawaii for a year or so to pay off the boat and keep going West. It turned out though that Hawaii has been an adventure of its own and 10 years later we are still here and my 914/3.2l is just completed and going through the tunning phase. ( you know weld in a bung for that O2 sensor to get a nice even idle).
Ruby is my 5th porsche. Yeah sailing and porsches go together.

best Mark

Kevin Reilly 10-08-2002 12:31 PM

I'm not much of a sailor but I did have a Laser for about 5 years. Boy was that a lot of fun. Challenging, relaxing, everything good. This thread reminds me of everything I liked about it!

efhughes3 10-08-2002 12:34 PM

Great Thread! I'm a sailor going through withdrawal! I lived on my Hunter 336 in Sausalito for about a year and a half, and then sailed her down to San Diego to coincide with a new job. Once there, I traded (with some cash thrown in!) up to a Hunter 376, and lived at the San Diego Yacht Club for a couple of years. I didn't race my boat, but trimmed main on a Swan 57 owned by a friend. We had some great races on that 60,000lb girl. I'm now in Dallas, but I've kept my SDYC membership active, as that is where my wife and I will retire. I'm sad to say my next boat will most likely be a trawler. This is the logical choice when a sailor switches to power, slow with nice accomodations.

Has anyone been watching the Louis V races in Auckland? OLN is televising them most every nite at 8:00 CDT. They have sure ignited my yearning!


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