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Do you know if these 'supercookies' would nullify anonymizers or proxies?
Verizon, AT&T tracking their users with
Not really.

Those super cookies are specifically created and designed to monetize advertising.

Technically yes if the carrier were logging and also willing to give up the info.

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First off I would like to retract part of my response, it was late, I was tired and had a goblet of the red stuff.

When I said "smarter" than you that was a mistype and unintended, I meant to say their skill set in this particular area exceeds yours. As in, just because I understand the concept of the game of golf I have no illusion that I could step on a course and play competitively against someone who plays 5 rounds a week.

OK,

A few ways for this to work.

1) They brute forced your WIFI networks password. They attached to that network and stole your bandwidth. They would have to be fairly close to do that. A neighbor or parked on the street likely no more than a house away.

2) They brute forced their way into the public facing side of your router. Most consumer home routers can be accessed from the outside as well as the inside. Depending on the routers capabilities they can now do all sorts of unpleasant things from setting up a VPN to obfuscate the true source of their activities to accessing your computers.

So for the VPN example, if their originating IP address was X and your routers public IP address were Y and they are torrenting files the destination for the torrents appears to be Y, meaning Y hides X. Their would be log entries in your router for X while it's happening but most consumer routers do not have a large enough memory to hold more than a day's, if that, of logs. So to find X you'd need to be looking while it's happening. Some consumer routers can be set up to email you the log file which gives you more data over time. That's all well and good assuming they are routing through only one VPN. They could bounce through multiple VPN's.

As far as their being charged from their ISP for the data? Most of us pay one monthly price for unlimited data. I could shove 1,000 GB's through my connection, (which I regularly do) does not cost me a dime extra.
This is hard to read.

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This is hard to read.

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Then don't read it.

Pretty simple.
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Not really.

Those super cookies are specifically created and designed to monetize advertising.

Technically yes if the carrier were logging and also willing to give up the info.
Nearly all advertising inherently is to monetize something. The cookies allow for targeted advertisements based upon terms of service which normally include privacy policies. By using their service or even visiting certain websites, you agree to their terms which often include cookies.

In the smartphone era, this becomes murkier than the plain old browser cookie. If you're using WiFi to connect your smartphone to the internet then many applications on your phone can and will transmit data autonomously. In the aggregate, multiple devices can gobble up bandwidth.

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