Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 3.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Moderator
 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 26,402
Garage
63 years of teaching math, The evolution

Sixty-Three Years of Math 1957-2020 In America: The evolution in teaching math since the 1950’s

1. Teaching Math in 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?

2. Teaching Math in 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

3. Teaching Math in 1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is $80. Did he make a profit?

4. Teaching Math in 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

5. Teaching Math in 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit
of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic
for class participation after answering the question: How did the
birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There
are no wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok.)

6. Teaching Math in 2000s
If you have special needs or just feel you need assistance because of
race, color, religion, sex, age, childhood
memories, criminal background, then don't answer and the correct
answer will be provided for you.
There are no wrong answers.

7. Teaching Math in 2020
Un hachero vende una carrtada de maderapara 100 pesos. El costo de la producciones es 80 pesos. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?

__________________
Bill Verburg
'76 Carrera 3.6RS(nee C3/hotrod), '95 993RS/CS(clone)
| Pelican Home |Rennlist Wheels |Rennlist Brakes |
Old 02-20-2015, 01:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Too big to fail
 
widebody911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 33,894
Garage
Send a message via AIM to widebody911 Send a message via Yahoo to widebody911
__________________
"You go to the track with the Porsche you have, not the Porsche you wish you had."
'03 E46 M3
'57 356A
Various VWs
Old 02-20-2015, 02:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Crusty Conservative
 
silverc4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Friendswood, TX, America
Posts: 3,242
Garage
Verdade, señor.
__________________
Bill

69 911 T Targa, 2.4E w/carbs (1985-2001)
70 911 S Coupe, 2nd owner (1989- 2015)
73 911 T Targa, 3.2 Motronic (2001- )
Old 02-20-2015, 02:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Too big to fail
 
widebody911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 33,894
Garage
Send a message via AIM to widebody911 Send a message via Yahoo to widebody911
Teaching math in 2050:

記錄器銷售木材的卡車為100美元。他的生產成本
是價格的4/5。什麼是他的利潤?
__________________
"You go to the track with the Porsche you have, not the Porsche you wish you had."
'03 E46 M3
'57 356A
Various VWs
Old 02-20-2015, 04:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
"O"man(are we in trouble)
 
widgeon13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: On the edge
Posts: 16,452
I spent 35 years in the paper industry and that's pretty darned accurate.
Old 02-20-2015, 04:47 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Targa, Panamera Turbo
 
M.D. Holloway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 22,366
I stress this to my kiddos:

Math and English are the two most important course you will take in school. Master those and you will succeed.
Old 02-20-2015, 08:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
$ Short's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 288
Garage
Thanks, I thought I was getting old and cranky.
__________________
2010 Carrera S
GONE
2022 Cayman T
2007 GT3
1988 Carrera
Old 02-21-2015, 10:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Schumi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,179
For being someone who learned math during the time in the middle of your list there, it's amazing I was able to earn multiple engineering degrees and, you know, be a productive member of society and all.

Every time I feel old I come by this board and feel young again. Ahhhhhhhh
__________________
M

Last edited by Schumi; 02-21-2015 at 11:54 AM..
Old 02-21-2015, 11:52 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
ZOO ZOO is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,513
It's too bad there hasn't been any innovative, intelligent, and entrepreneurial spirit since the early part of the 20th Century . . . that "new" math has really put a damper on new ideas and products.
Old 02-22-2015, 02:16 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
GG Allin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ORD
Posts: 3,978
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZOO View Post
It's too bad there hasn't been any innovative, intelligent, and entrepreneurial spirit since the early part of the 20th Century . . . that "new" math has really put a damper on new ideas and products.
Yet American companies pretty much dominate the computer and web content intustries.
__________________
-Mark B. Hardware Store Engineer
1988 911 - 3.6
1999 SL500 - Gone
1995 M3 - LS2 - Gone
1993 RS America - Gone
Old 02-22-2015, 05:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Targa, Panamera Turbo
 
M.D. Holloway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 22,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZOO View Post
It's too bad there hasn't been any innovative, intelligent, and entrepreneurial spirit since the early part of the 20th Century . . . that "new" math has really put a damper on new ideas and products.
Not sure if this is supposed to be green or if your serious but I would argue that the spirit of entrepreneurialism is alive and well in this country - maybe now more then ever. Not sure if math has much to do with it though.

My daughter is taking algebra (in 6th grade) and my Son is taking geometry (10th grade) and it seems like they are teaching it the way I was years ago. I don't know if it is the best way though.

Seems like higher math is really about understanding the various 'tricks' to getting to the results. To truly understand the logic reasoning to the solution approach isn't easy to teach and even tougher to comprehend.

Quote:
Principia Mathematica is the book Russell wrote with Alfred North Whitehead where they gave a logical foundation of Mathematics by developing the Theory of Types that obviated the Russell's paradox. Some idea of the scope and comprehensiveness of the “Principia” can be gleaned from the fact that it takes over 360 pages to prove definitively that 1 + 1 = 2.
What I tell my kids is that there may or may not be a time in the future when you have to apply algebra or geometry or any type of math but what you will have to do is follow a process by which to solve a problem and that is what math teaches you to do. Someone has already figured out the process, albeit complicated, just apply some thought and chug through it. If your really good you will look to make that process better if not then at least you can follow directions.
__________________
Michael D. Holloway
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Holloway
https://5thorderindustry.com/
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=michael+d+holloway&crid=3AWD8RUVY3E2F&sprefix= michael+d+holloway%2Caps%2C136&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
Old 02-22-2015, 07:15 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
ZOO ZOO is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,513
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway View Post
Not sure if this is supposed to be green or if your serious but I would argue that the spirit of entrepreneurialism is alive and well in this country - maybe now more then ever. Not sure if math has much to do with it though.

My daughter is taking algebra (in 6th grade) and my Son is taking geometry (10th grade) and it seems like they are teaching it the way I was years ago. I don't know if it is the best way though.

Seems like higher math is really about understanding the various 'tricks' to getting to the results. To truly understand the logic reasoning to the solution approach isn't easy to teach and even tougher to comprehend.



What I tell my kids is that there may or may not be a time in the future when you have to apply algebra or geometry or any type of math but what you will have to do is follow a process by which to solve a problem and that is what math teaches you to do. Someone has already figured out the process, albeit complicated, just apply some thought and chug through it. If your really good you will look to make that process better if not then at least you can follow directions.
Crap. Maybe I'd better make a thread called 65 Years of Teaching Irony and Hyperbole. I didn't think I would need to indicate those things with green font
Old 02-22-2015, 07:18 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Targa, Panamera Turbo
 
M.D. Holloway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 22,366
Oh you would be surprised! I can think of many arguments that began due to a lack of understanding certain comments were made in ironic context...

__________________
Michael D. Holloway
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Holloway
https://5thorderindustry.com/
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=michael+d+holloway&crid=3AWD8RUVY3E2F&sprefix= michael+d+holloway%2Caps%2C136&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
Old 02-22-2015, 07:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:04 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.