A320 Down

[Crowbob]

A320 Airbus down in the Alps. 148 presumed dead.

[dewolf]

Has not been a good couple of yeras for airliners.

[widgeon13]

Nowadays you don't know what brings them down.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by dewolf

Has not been a good couple of yeras for airliners.

Especially Airbus.

[Holger]

All 150 people on board dead.
Took an alternative route because of bad weather conditions.
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-aipx/#5d42675


It makes me the more sad that all "official condoleances" and official statements are done via Twitter&Co.

[Baz]

Very sad.

Prayers to family and loved ones of those lost.

[afterburn 549]

One more flat stall ?

[Rusty Heap]

[Hugh R]

IIRC, a few of our commercial pilot buddies here have said in the past "If its not Boeing, I'm not going".

[afterburn 549]

Thats my mantra

[HardDrive]

When flt 447 crashed over the Atlantic, I was blown away when it was revealed how the flight control systems on an Airbus deal with conflicting inputs. It averages out the inputs without informing the pilots that they are taking opposite actions. Insane.

[afterburn 549]

I think there might be room for error with "fly by wire "

[450knotOffice]

The 320 family of Airbus jets has been flying in revenue service for twenty seven years. Almost 6,200 are in service today. So, those pilots who say "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" are embarrassingly clueless.

I currently fly the Airbus. I formerly flew the Boeing 737. Both are great airplanes.

Before we start blaming Airbus, let's wait until some info comes out. Right now, we only know that it went down.

[450knotOffice]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

When flt 447 crashed over the Atlantic, I was blown away when it was revealed how the flight control systems on an Airbus deal with conflicting inputs. It averages out the inputs without informing the pilots that they are taking opposite actions. Insane.

This is incorrect. The airplane DOES tell you that there are dual inputs - VERY clearly and with no ambiguity.

[aigel]

This is a budget airline. It may be unrelated but I really don't know if you wan to be on a budget when flying ... the plane sure sounds like it had a few miles. According to Der Spiegel magazine, the plane was delivered to Lufthansa new in 1991 and is one of the oldest 320s still in service with production number 147. Airbus said it had about 58k hours and 46k flights under its belt.

That's impressive. 58k hours! That's almost 7 continuous years in the air. If you had a car with 58k hours, and estimate about 30-40 mph average speed, you'd have hit 2,000,000 miles. Of course I'd think they rebuild these and refresh as needed, just as you would on a 2 million mile car that's still safe to drive. But still ...

At least they won't have to look for it in the pacific.

G

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

When flt 447 crashed over the Atlantic, I was blown away when it was revealed how the flight control systems on an Airbus deal with conflicting inputs. It averages out the inputs without informing the pilots that they are taking opposite actions. Insane.

The stall warning was going off until they were in such a deep stall that the computer thought the readings were erroneous. Most definitely pilot error/lack of training in this case. Ironically they were in alternate law which gives the pilots more control similar to a Boeing aircraft.

[Schumi]

You know what? F--- CNN and their stupid, uninformative, insensitive headlines. F--- them.

[rusnak]

^ Amen. Shame on you, Laura Smith, Jason Hanna, and Greg Bothelho. Shame on CNN for idiotic headlines.

[motion]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

The 320 family of Airbus jets has been flying in revenue service for twenty seven years. Almost 6,200 are in service today. So, those pilots who say "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" are embarrassingly clueless.

I currently fly the Airbus. I formerly flew the Boeing 737. Both are great airplanes.

Before we start blaming Airbus, let's wait until some info comes out. Right now, we only know that it went down.

Absolutely. Even if an A320 fell out of the sky every single day, they would still be a safe airplane. I'm flying an A320 Germanwings flight in a few weeks from Berlin to LHR. I am not worried in the least. RIP to the people on board this flight.

[flipper35]

Well if they fell out of the sky every day I would think we have a pilot problem.