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RWebb 09-16-2019 02:45 PM
Texas is worse than either Ok la homa or Massa chew setts

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 10594514)
Massachusetts has dedicated 44% of its land to forest.
Oklahoma has dedicated 26%.

And I would caution against bragging about man made lakes. Plenty of data out there on the harm to land/people to create lakes. Haven’t you seen Ozark on Netflix?

And quite frankly, I’m surprised at how much judging and condemning some are doing on here about the Burn.

I’ll repeat, don’t tell me even though you haven’t set yourself on fire, but you know you’d hate it.

Just move along, nothing productive for you to add, nothing that interests you here.

To each their own.

And the attacks began from “Burn disagreers”. All that followed was in response.
He is the one that mentioned Oklahoma as a ****hole state.

DonDavis 09-16-2019 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10594520)
He is the one that mentioned Oklahoma as a ****hole state.
C’mon man, read what I said, then look back through the thread.

RWebb 09-16-2019 03:14 PM
maybe Arkansas is the worst state?

nah - Ozarks, hot springs...

back to Mississippi

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 10594522)
C’mon man, read what I said, then look back through the thread.
Hell, Don. Even you suggested the area was a ****hole. Enjoyable, but still a localized ****hole.


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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 10587324)
Not a place to be stranded or in distress. Sure, there’s staff to help with medical issues, but you’re essentially on your own.

I found it interesting that people gave away booze, but when I asked for water they hemmed/hawed. We brought plenty, but at that time my personal bottle was empty.

I brought an N95 mask as well as a 3M professional respirator and goggles in case it got really bad. I used the N95 while sleeping two times.

There’s only porto potties, and you can guess how they were. There were teams cleaning them out every couple days or so, but still.

If you want to shower, you’ll have to bring your own. We have a stand-alone setup but with all the wind and dust, and the water is cold, not much point. So I only showered 1.5 times. The .5 was super quick to get the big stuff.

Everything was a chore. Eating, cleaning, going to the head, er, restroom, all of it.
We were on the second to last ring road and it was loud 24/7. I slept with earplugs in every night.

I had very little relief from the dust. That makes for a hard week when trying to explore and check out the art.

If I go again, I think I’d take an RV, but even that’s no guarantee there will be relief.
The dust will, and does, get EVERYWHERE.

Good luck.

Tim Hancock 09-16-2019 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10594456)
We live here to be as far from Tax-a-usetts and Kalifornia as possible. And this part of the country is NOT like the old B movies. Oklahoma has virgin old growth forests. They have never been logged. We have mountains and yea, once we had a dust bowl.

I can't fathom why anyone would want to live in a totally crowded, liberal invested, overpopulated traffic hell hole like the big cities on the coasts. Nice places to visit, but I like owning my house outright.

And add another screw you.
Add one more.... ;)

DonDavis 09-16-2019 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10594544)
Hell, Don. Even you suggested the area was a ****hole. Enjoyable, but still a localized ****hole.
That’s because I’ve been have first hand real experience.

And I also said I would absolutely go again. My words are an honest representation of my experience. There’s an incredible amount of distance on the playa.
Those 3 minute videos are a nice snip, but I’d have to cover lots of distance over a few hours to actually view the content in those videos.

But that doesn’t fit your opinion.

You know exactly what’s going on here. And you’re more intelligent than that.

Folks hate on the Burn and the attendees without ever having been there. That’s not fair.

Folks saying “that ain’t for me, you guys go ahead” is completely fair and welcome.

If people fall into the latter, then so be it. No harm, no foul.

Don’t hate just because you think it’s wall to wall hippies...’cuz it absolutely IS NOT that.

911boost 09-16-2019 03:59 PM
I cannot speak one way or another as it relates to OK, but I have a sibling that lives outside Boston, and no way in hell could I tolerate living there.

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 04:07 PM
I haven't said a single negative thing about it. Your post had more than enough negatives about the place. As far as hippies go, in the early 70's I had hair down to the middle of my back and had access to every drug imaginable being used so hippies wouldn't bother me one bit.

Based on your first hand information I can see that it ain't for me.


I only took exception to Oklahoma being called a ****hole which is anything but the truth.

Rawknees'Turbo 09-16-2019 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10594460)
How many blizzards and 3 foot snowfalls have you had?
No blizzards or 3' snowfalls, but plenty of ice storms, including one six years ago that left my area without power for five days (house at the time was all electric, so didn't even have hot water - used a generator to power refrigerator, microwave, computer rig, and small space heater).

I wonder how many states, other than TexASS, have a climate that causes a human being to shed 3-4 pounds of daily water weight, despite drinking huge quantities of water, when working in an unairconditioned environment (such as an old school, shop hanger), for 4-5 consecutive months?

We have two seasons here, hot and hotter, with a couple of months of random weather events in between (cold for two days, then back to hot for a week, then cold for another two days, etc). And even the two cooler months mostly suck because the air is still so humid and rank, for the most part.

Climatewise, this truly is a bunghole of America for anyone that doesn't like to burn and sweat ass.

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 04:14 PM
Which city are you in? How far north in Texas?

DFW north? Denton north? Wichita Falls north?

Rawknees'Turbo 09-16-2019 04:24 PM
Fort Worth currently - have lived in Dallas, Denton and Rockwall (a little east of Dallas) since 1989. I know there are other areas in Texass that are even worse for heat and humidity, such as Houston (I don't know how anybody can choose to live there, but I say the same thing about here, and yet here I am :D).

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 04:44 PM
I lived in Tyler for 15 years and spent plenty of time in the DFW area. I hate 635

Rawknees'Turbo 09-16-2019 04:54 PM
No doubt about 635. Really, all the highways here are a total shiit show - 7 days a week, bumper to bumper pickup trucks and land barge SUVs, with at least half the drivers with a phone or tablet in their faces. The only peaceful time on the road is between 3-6am.

masraum 09-16-2019 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10590441)
My life philosophy for the last 20 or so years has been to actively make the lives of people around me better, friends, family and strangers alike, and mostly in tiny ways (Tim has firsthand experience of this) that just create a smile and a thanks, the key being to always be on the lookout for opportunities to act, especially since small things can blossom into bigger ones. It's a gratifying way to go through life and is a little contagious.

I'm not immune to judging nor being so, but to judge the free expression of many of Man's best qualities seems really quite odd to me. I don't get it.
Dude, I'm totally stealing this as a motivational thing!

Years ago, I had a manager that almost any time anyone asked him how he was, his answer would be "Fantastic," "Outstanding," etc..., and he sold it with a huge smile. After working with him for a while, it struck me, he changed the attitudes of everyone within ear shot whenever he did that. I liked it and the results and have tried to have the same attitude, and I think I've had a similar effect.

DonDavis 09-16-2019 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10594588)
I haven't said a single negative thing about it.
You’re exactly correct. After re-reading my words I’d like to apologize for appearing to single you out. I quoted your state stats to demonstrate how numbers can tell the same story in much different ways.

The rest was for everyone in general.

I hope we’re good.

You too, Glen.

p.s. lived in Big Spring ‘95-‘99

Sooner or later 09-16-2019 06:42 PM
We're good

KFC911 09-16-2019 11:24 PM
I can imagine why anyone would want to live in OK.....

Living in NC....

Tulsa Beach ;)

I don't do green....

Shaun @ Tru6 09-17-2019 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10594637)
Dude, I'm totally stealing this as a motivational thing!

Years ago, I had a manager that almost any time anyone asked him how he was, his answer would be "Fantastic," "Outstanding," etc..., and he sold it with a huge smile. After working with him for a while, it struck me, he changed the attitudes of everyone within ear shot whenever he did that. I liked it and the results and have tried to have the same attitude, and I think I've had a similar effect.
Steve, that's really cool that it's worked for you, I can see how it would.

Random (key element) positive impact on others around you is a terribly fun and great way to go through life. Keeps you young in your mind like when we were kids. I was having dinner with a friend who I haven't seen in person for years (moved away) and we were talking about life philosophies. She practices the same and we got to talking about the challenge of response or really lack thereof sometimes. The "return" is in the act itself, not the response and that's sometimes hard to internalize. Expectation is counter the philosophy, then it becomes about you and not about giving. This was all centered around a third friend and her experience with them but it really brought home that it's about the action for it's own sake and not their reaction.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-17-2019 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DonDavis (Post 10594567)
Folks hate on the Burn and the attendees without ever having been there. That’s not fair.

Folks saying “that ain’t for me, you guys go ahead” is completely fair and welcome.

If people fall into the latter, then so be it. No harm, no foul.
Hey Don, as I just said above, had dinner with an old friend last night and I brought up Burning Man. She thought it was great I was going and then I told her I may not get tickets. Her response was that she's "connected" and can help. Like gets a personal tour of the White House after hours, within 2 of mentioning she'd like to see it, connected. I'm not sure if that kind of connection applies to Burning Man but it can't hurt to try. I'm still going with the volunteer route too.

I know what you are saying above but IMHO, the latter folks are just passive aggressive versions of the former. Who actually takes the time to write a post explicitly to tell the community that something isn't for them? What is that about? Passive aggressive buggery.


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