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J P Stein 06-27-2015 08:12 PM

The Apple of .....
 
.....my eye? NOT!!
I bought my first computer in 1999.
My last one semi-puked a week or 2 ago.
Shopped for a new one but my wife & son convinced me to buy an Apple jobbie.

It cost me almost 3 times more that an HP with Windows.....and a big waste of time trying to figure out how to use it. I'd stick with it IF I could download my old picture
editing program.....but hell no !!!!! Doan work on a Mac.

I need to get away from this POS & go back to Windows.

winders 06-27-2015 08:30 PM

I bought my first computer in 1979.....

I regularly work on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. They all have their idiosyncrasies but none of them are a POS. When I work on a computer for personal stuff, I prefer to use the Mac. I have to use Windows to run the AIM software for my lap timer/data logger.

I bought my personal Mac way back in 2008 and it is still powerful enough today to do what I want. It runs the latest version of Mac OS and will run the next version too. Except for some third-party RAM that failed (lifetime warranty), the computer has been flawless. Yes, it cost more than Windows-based systems of 2008. But, the user experience, quality, and resale value make the investment worth it.

If you don't like change, don't change. But don't call something a POS that you really know nothing about.

stomachmonkey 06-27-2015 08:37 PM

I have mostly Macs in the house, a bunch of Windows boxes and a fair share of Linux.

My kids switch between the 3 and barely notice a difference.

For them it's like getting driven around in the Tahoe / Mazda or Porsche, it's simultaneously the same thing but different.

Not everyone has an easy time adjusting to a different OS and it's not the OS's fault that you are stuck in time.

If you really can't make the switch then toss Windows on the new Apple hardware and get on with life.

chapo 06-27-2015 09:26 PM

Feel the same way about my pc laptop my work gave me. Wish it had anywhere near the performance and ease of use as my 2008 iMac. Just popped in a 6gb ram upgrade and it's like new. I went through the cycle of buying nice, expensive pcs every 2 years and got tired of the crashes and poor performance. Going on 7 years now, it's great. Comfortable on either platform but like my Mac better. I don't want to be a programmer, just want together my work done

KFC911 06-28-2015 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 8686545)
I bought my first computer in 1979.....

I regularly work on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. They all have their idiosyncrasies but none of them are a POS......

In '79 I was using the VERY best hardware available (located at Research Triangle Park, NC) while getting a degree in Computer Science. As a systems programmer for over 25 years, I've "mastered" a BUNCH of operating systems at a level that most can't even begin to fathom. But...I'm just not a fan of Apple either....well, except as an equity :D

Gogar 06-28-2015 05:19 AM

Yeah I agree it's definitely the computer's fault.

If you feel happy with the Windows stuff then by all means get a new one of those and full speed ahead!!

86 ssinit 06-28-2015 05:40 AM

Just give it time!!! I to was a windows follower but my kids bought me a mac book after me buying new laptops every 2 years. Takes time but in the end you will covert. There great systems and they last. I'm 4 years in and everything is apple. There are ways to convert your pictures ask your kids to show you or go to an Apple Store and ask the techs.

KFC911 06-28-2015 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 8686759)
Yeah I agree it's definitely the computer's fault.

If you feel happy with the Windows ...

Windoze or Winblows :D?

M.D. Holloway 06-28-2015 06:00 AM

Macs are an order of magnitude better. If your used to PCs you will ha e a learning curve with a Mac for sure. I bought a MacPro and I wish I could do all my company stuff on it. Even all our IT guys have Macs for personal use. Corp had a deal with hp which IMO is stupid.

The more you use it the more you will like it. Much more powerful, nimble, reliable then a PC. Trust me.

Gogar 06-28-2015 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 8686787)
Windoze or Winblows :D?

Both! But if he wants to buy a Dodge er . . . . I mean Windows that's his prerogative!

nota 06-28-2015 06:04 AM

so put a W7 , XP , or whatever MS program on the damm mac
then all your programs will work
called a dual boot system

Porsche-O-Phile 06-28-2015 07:05 AM

Gotta agree - once you try Mac you'll never go back. :)

sammyg2 06-28-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J P Stein (Post 8686539)
.....my eye? NOT!!
I bought my first computer in 1999.
My last one semi-puked a week or 2 ago.
Shopped for a new one but my wife & son convinced me to buy an Apple jobbie.

It cost me almost 3 times more that an HP with Windows.....and a big waste of time trying to figure out how to use it. I'd stick with it IF I could download my old picture
editing program.....but hell no !!!!! Doan work on a Mac.

I need to get away from this POS & go back to Windows.

I see what you did.
You are supposed to drink the kool-aid, wait a half hour for it to take effect, and THEN turn on the puter.

Too late now, all they can do is silence you to keep you from infecting others.

J P Stein 06-28-2015 10:49 AM

To me, a computer is a tool, not an avocation.

Tools are (or should be) intuitive, IMO, Apple sure as hell is not. I'm almost sure the working instructions are in here somewhere....God knows where. I'm also sure any instructions are written in computerese and I haven't had that class.

Steve Jobs was probably brilliant, but I ain't. I fumble around with learning until I get frustrated with it and move along a different path, if I can, and the need to know is important enough. Windows got it closer to right......the market has spoken, eh? Windows is much more intuitive and there are fewer roadblocks. I've only a few years left....not enough to waste time on Apple's tool.

winders 06-28-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J P Stein (Post 8687165)
To me, a computer is a tool, not an avocation.

Tools are (or should be) intuitive, IMO, Apple sure as hell is not. I'm almost sure the working instructions are in here somewhere....God knows where. I'm also sure any instructions are written in computerese and I haven't had that class.

Steve Jobs was probably brilliant, but I ain't. I fumble around with learning until I get frustrated with it and move along a different path, if I can, and the need to know is important enough. Windows got it closer to right......the market has spoken, eh? Windows is much more intuitive and there are fewer roadblocks. I've only a few years left....not enough to waste time on Apple's tool.

That is just too funny. The reason you think Windows is intuitive and Mac OS X is not is because Windows is what you know. You can't handle change. Windows does not have the largest market share because the world thinks it is more intuitive. Mac OS X is generally accepted to be a more intuitive and user-friendly interface.

You deserve Windows so please stick with it! If I had to choose just one OS, it would not be Windows!

Joe Bob 06-28-2015 11:07 AM

Didn't Gates, steal his Op Sys from Apple?

winders 06-28-2015 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 8687195)
Didn't Gates, steal his Op Sys from Apple?

Microsoft "borrowed" much of the user interface for Windows. Except they did a really poor job of making it as intuitive as Apple did. The advantage Microsoft had was the huge installed base in business using their OS.

Gogar 06-28-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 8687188)
The reason you think Windows is intuitive and Mac OS X is not is because Windows is what you know.


Please read this 5 times. On whatever computer you like. Because it's the truth! Use what makes you comfortable.

M.D. Holloway 06-28-2015 12:03 PM

I miss my Moto Flip Phone...damn iPhone!

J P Stein 06-28-2015 05:22 PM

What ever. I'm back with Windows. It took me about 10-15 minutes set up time, box to typing. Getting all the data I could use off the old box will take some doing.


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