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Oh Haha 06-30-2015 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=ckelly78z;8690386]After spending 5 days in a really nice Michigan State park that overlooked the St Clair river where the large ships and maritime travelers all moved along the river, you can't believe the noise from the 2 lane highway that separated us from the river. It seemed that every blockhead with loud pipes on his Harley or his 4x4 pickup took great joy in saying "look at me" by revving or accelerating briskly past the campground.

That road is the major tourist/cruise road along the river. Did you happen to go north to Port Huron while in Michigan?

dennis in se pa 06-30-2015 12:54 PM

I feel your pain. The older I get the less I like noise AND people. I love my 3 dogs and they are quiet usually. I can't imagine going on vacation with an extended family anymore.

Seahawk 06-30-2015 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 8690505)

You are one of the best people here but...:D

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widebody911 06-30-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 8690378)
Get some liquid earplugs. The good ones taste just like scotch.

I found some stashed; this will have to do for now.

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imcarthur 06-30-2015 01:18 PM

^^^^^^ It's not enough.

Let’s see, feed myself into a wood chipper or go on vacation with extended family. Hmmm. Which would I choose?

Ian

Mark Henry 06-30-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 8690424)
I was an only child raised in a quiet home. So no, I'm not a fan of loud people. I used to love loud music and cars but that is pretty much drying up to...like me I guess.

This was me 15 years ago, I also totally hated dogs because they barked.

Then I moved out to the "quiet" country and had kids in my early 40's.
Now I don't even notice noise anymore, babies crying make me smile and I get a kick out watching old farts blow a gasket when they do.
I love my noisy teenage kids, my tractor, ATV, my loud ass cars, my rooster cock-a-doodling in the morning, coyotes, crickets and spring peepers at night and most of all I just love my barky dog.

But then again I have no city noise anymore, I do hate city and droning traffic noise.

SmileWavy

VINMAN 06-30-2015 01:37 PM

Noisy eaters. Makes me nuts. :mad:


Other than that, not really bothered by much.




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rfloz 06-30-2015 01:42 PM

It's an actual thing, er, things:


Four Types of Sound Sensitivity

1. HYPERACUSIS: These individuals have a collapsed tolerance to normal environmental sound. The term commonly used to describe this condition is 'hyperacusis'. Hyperacusis can come on gradually or occur suddenly where the patient finds themself in a state of crisis. Patients who have a collapsed tolerance to sound need to have their Loudness Discomfort Levels (LDL's) established by a hearing healthcare professional. Normal LDL's are in the 85-90+ decibel range. Patients with hyperacusis would have LDL's well below that level. The common treatment for hyperacusis is listening to broadband pink noise though sound generators (special hearing aids) which must be ordered through a specially trained doctor or audiologist who administers Hyperacusis (Tinnitus) Retraining Therapy. The therapy often costs $3000-$4000 (depending on the clinician) and typically is not covered by insurance.

There are two basic ways to deliver broadband pink noise to your ears. The best way starts with a clinician who is trained to diagnose the seriousness of your condition, explain to you the dynamics of hyperacusis, test your ears in gentle ways to determine your loudness discomfort levels (LDL), fit you with special hearing aids called noise (sound) generators that deliver broadband pink noise to your ears, monitor your progress and provide directive counseling until you recover. Treatment usually lasts 6 months. Clinicians who administer this kind of treatment were trained by Dr. Pawel Jastreboff (Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia). They are experts in treating hyperacusis and tinnitus patients. Their protocol is called Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (also know as TRT) and it has significantly helped tinnitus and hyperacusis patients recover. To learn more about TRT you might consider reading Dr. Jastreboff's book "Tinnitus Retraining Therapy." A list of TRT clinicians can be seen by visiting this website: referral.html

The second way one can deliver broadband pink noise to their ears would be to purchase the broadband pink noise CD from the network. Instead of listening to broadband pink noise through special noise generators (TRT), a similar sound can be delivered to the ear by listening to a pink noise CD. With this method pink noise is delivered to the ears through a compact CD player (i.e. walkman). If you use a compact CD player it is very important that you use open air headphones. More detail is explained in the guideline that comes with this networks pink noise CD. Pink noise can also be downloaded from the pink noise CD to an ipod. The only caution here would be that the pink noise be converted to a WAV or AIFF format.

2. RECRUITMENT: There are many more individuals who have recruitment. Recruitment is the a rapid growth of perceived loudness for sounds in the pitch region of a person who has hearing loss. This phenomenon occurs because at some decibel level, the normal hair cells adjacent to the damaged hair cells (corresponding to the frequency of a hearing loss) are "recruited." At the decibel level at which these normal hair cells "kick in," perceived loudness shoots up rapidly, causing discomfort. In other words, at one point the person cannot hear the sound because they have hearing loss (in that frequency), then when the sound reaches a certain loudness and/or frequency the person is blown away. Once they finally hear the sound, it is perceived as far too loud. Recruitment is a common phenomenon in cultures where the majority of their lives have been saturated with too much noise – like our Western culture. Common treatment is the same as it is for hyperacusis unless the persons hearing loss is so pronounced that listening to broadband pink noise would be of no benefit to them.

3. HYPERSENSITIVE HEARING (OF SPECIFIC FREQUENCIES): Then there are individuals who are sound sensitive at birth but it is only specific to certain frequencies heard at loud levels (typically above 70 decibels). It may seem like we are splitting hairs here but remember – the key words with hypersensitive hearing are – sound sensitive to specific frequencies heard at loud levels. These frequencies are typically labeled 'problem' frequencies. Autistic children are good examples of this. They can tolerate some sound at normal or even loud volumes but some frequencies are difficult to tolerable. Commonly autistic children, children who are marginally autistic, or non-autistic individuals who have hyperacute hearing are treated with auditory integration therapy (AIT). AIT takes regular music and filters out the problem frequencies through a special machine called an audiokinetron. Somehow this therapy seems to 'retune' their ears and normalizes their hearing tolerances. The music is listened to at decibel levels which can peak up to 90 decibels. This creates a problem for the hyperacusis patient. The therapy is too loud and only worsens the condition of the hyperacusis patient whose Loudness Discomfort Levels have been compromised. To learn more about the sensory problems associated with autism visit this link: The sensory world of autism - | autism | Asperger syndrome |

4. PHONOPHOBIA/MISOPHONIA:

Phonophobia (fear of sound) is an adverse emotional response to sound and often develops with an individual who has a significant collapsed tolerance to sound. They not only fear the sound of the environment they are experiencing in real time (right now) they worry about the sound that future events of the day or in the near future will produce. It can significantly interfer with a patients recovery as they seek or complete sound therapy. Phonophobia can take over ones life and make one feel they need to isolate themselves to survive. This is a recipe for disaster. It is critical that we keep our ears active to rebuild our tolerances to sound. That is why broadband pink noise is so crucial to bringing us back to the mainstream of life.

Misophonia (dislike of sound) is also an adverse response to sound no matter what volume the sound is. Typically misophonia characterizes an individual who reacts strongly to soft sounds and sometimes is further triggered by seeing the source of the offending sound. Common examples would include but are not limited to: the sound of people eating, smacking their lips, sniffing, the sound of certain consonants like p, s, or t, and repetitive sounds. These individuals do not have a collapsed tolerance to sound which would be evident in a Loudness Discomfort Level (LDL) test.

http://www.hyperacusis.net/hyperacusis/4+types+of+sound+sensitivity/default.asp

wayner 06-30-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 8690378)
Get some liquid earplugs. The good ones taste just like scotch.

If he ingests those I'll bet he starts making a bunch of noise too!

HardDrive 06-30-2015 02:09 PM

I like techno music, so I'm not really one to cast stones about others 'noise'.

Oh Haha 06-30-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 8690627)
Noisy eaters. Makes me nuts. :mad:


Other than that, not really bothered by much.




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YES!!!!!!

Hearing somebody eating popcorn or chips drives me farkin nuts!! My son has a bad habit(like many others) of this.

"For the love of all that is holy, close your mouth after you put the chip in!!!"

ckelly78z 06-30-2015 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Oh Haha;8690561]
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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 8690386)

That road is the major tourist/cruise road along the river. Did you happen to go north to Port Huron while in Michigan?

Yes, we checked out the waterfront and drove under the hi-level bridge and lounged on the beach next to the Port Huron Lighthouse.....nice place !

A930Rocket 06-30-2015 05:14 PM

Loud music, talking, etc. used to not bother me, but as I've gotten older, I like my silence. Even having the tv on bothers me.

Oh Haha 06-30-2015 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=ckelly78z;8690873]
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Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 8690561)

Yes, we checked out the waterfront and drove under the hi-level bridge and lounged on the beach next to the Port Huron Lighthouse.....nice place !

That's my hometown. I grew up outside of the city but spent lots of time at the beaches and watched the newer bridge being built back in the mid-90s.

I have several pics of the 911 over the years with the bridges in the background.

stuartj 06-30-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 8690328)
I'm on "vacation" with my wife's family. There are a couple people here who seem to need to constantly create noise. They either need to have the music cranked to 11, or they're singing, clapping, snapping fingers, yelling "whohoo!" yada yada yada. All fooking day along. I don't know if this is normal or not, but it just bugs the hell out of me. I guess I'm more of a quiet person, as I rarely have the music going, I don't sing out loud or any of that madness. I could (almost) understand if these were kids, but they're in their 50's and 60's!

Am I just a curmudgeon?

Im with you on this. Loud talky people, noisy environments, especially TVs and screeching ads. Fkn Harleys.

Went to Spain, the women there blew my mind. The hottest women in the world. By the end of a week in Barcelona, I could have cheerfully strangled every one of them. They never shut up and they are so loud.

I play in a rock band.

red-beard 06-30-2015 06:36 PM

You've just reminded me of a story from my campground camping days. Our "regular" spot was rented and we ended up in a different area. Not long after we arrived, this "group" arrived and went to the campsite next to us.

They had no camping equipment. In fact, at one point I found an electric drip coffee maker in the men's toilet! One of the guys was obviously "mentally handicapped". Not real bad, but definitely was a problem. Loud. yelling all the time. outbursts. Kept saying "Larry" all the time. Screaming. All sorts of annoying stuff when you are supposed to be in a quiet state campground.

At some point. The screaming gets worse. There is an argument. The Gist is the crazy guy is screaming that "Larry" stole his "pot" - marijuana...Meanwhile Larry is trying to shush him, etc. Hilarious, if we weren't staying next door...

I can't remember what exactly was the final straw, but my (now) ex-wife and her daughter were walking past and the wacko yells something weird at them. I had to go to the rangers and they quickly "moved on".

"LARRY! LARRY! LARRY! YOU STOLE MY POT, LARRY!"

oldE 07-01-2015 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8690582)
You are one of the best people here but...:D

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You cut me deep, Paul. Deep.SmileWavy

I would have been belting out "Sister Golden Hair" :D

Best
Les

wdfifteen 07-01-2015 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rfloz (Post 8690633)
It's an actual thing, er, things:

Four Types of Sound Sensitivity

I have sound sensitivity of one of these types. I can't go to music concerts or listen to any loud music. It is literally painful to me. Movie theaters play the sound too loud for me most of the time, so I take ear plugs if I go at all.
But I thought the OP was talking about noise that is annoying as opposed to painful.

ckelly78z 07-01-2015 07:13 AM

Luckily, I didn't see myself in any of the four types of sound sensetivity listed above. I do have to run a fan year round while I sleep to prevent me from hearing every little noise like the passing traffic, house sounds, cats playing in another room, or any other minor sound during the night (I believe that I am more of a light sleeper than having hearing problems). For this reason also, I need to have the bedroom dark when I sleep, and really had a tough time years ago when I worked 3rd shift for awhile.

I am not very tolerant of useless, needless noise made by barking dogs, or loud people who have no filters. Being a quiet person, I enjoy my vacation days doing things on my farm or reading a book by our campfire. One more thing "LOUD PIPES DON'T SAVE LIVES" they're just annoying !


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