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Swap out a 15 amp breaker for a 20 amp beaker
Can I, SHOULD I do this myself?
I have a new AC floor unit that maxes out at 15 amps. I don't have a dedicated line for it so it's likely that it'll trip on startup or when the compressor kicks in. I'm no dummy but neither am I egregiously stupid. So yea or nay?
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The work of changing out a breaker is simple.
It's the "should" that would concern me. I'm not sure what the rules are for wire gauge and circuit size that governs whether a circuit is/can be rated for 20amps. My guess is that chances are that it wouldn't be a problem if you did it, but it would also suck to start a fire.
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There's a good chance the AC unit doesn't actually draw 15 amps. I'd try it as is first and see what happens. If you do need to upsize the breaker, you need at least 12 gauge wire to safely handle the load. If the wire is 14 gauge, don't do it.
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This. The breaker is sized to protect the wire, not the appliance.
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15 amp for 14 wire 20 amp for 20 wire etc
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Did not know that about wire gauge. THANK YOU!
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Unless copper was very cheap when the house was built, its unlikely that a 15amp circuit has 12ga wire.
Or (like me) reals of 12ga is what the electrician on one your jobs handed you so 12ga is what you used. My retired electrician uncle was nearly apoplectic seeing yellow romex everywhere. |
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a correction and added 30 AMP
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So, 14 AWG wire is white?
12 AWG wire is yellow? 10 AWG wire is paisley?
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__________________________________________________ _____________ FB, if the unit is rated at 15 amps that's typically "locked rotor amps" which only occurs on startup. Once the unit is running the amperage will drop. As someone else suggested, I'd plug it in and see what happens.
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Mike - there are recently introduced "new" colors for 3 conductor wire. But the customary colors for 2 conductor wire are white, yellow, orange, black - for 14, 12, 10 and 8 AWG.
Google: The new Romex NM-B cable color coding, introduced in 2024, uses blue for 14/3, purple for 12/3, and pink for 10/3 cables. These new colors differentiate 2-conductor and 3-conductor cables, making it easier to identify cable type and gauge. Traditional colors for 2-conductor Romex (white for 14/2, yellow for 12/2, orange for 10/2, and black for 8/2 and 6/2) remain unchanged. [1, 2, 3] Here's a more detailed breakdown: New Colors (2024): 14/3 NM-B: Blue jacket 12/3 NM-B: Purple jacket 10/3 NM-B: Pink jacket [1, 2] Traditional Colors (No Change): 14/2 NM-B: White jacket 12/2 NM-B: Yellow jacket 10/2 NM-B: Orange jacket 8/2 and 6/2 NM-B: Black jacket [1, 2, 3] Purpose of New Colors: The new colors help distinguish 2-conductor (traditional) and 3-conductor (new) Romex cables. [1, 2] This makes it easier to identify the specific cable type for different applications, such as 3-way switches, split receptacles, multi-way lighting, and appliances requiring multiple hot conductors. [1] The new color coding also simplifies wiring for electricians and helps inspectors ensure compliance with NEC regulations. [4] AI responses may include mistakes.
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20amp wants 12 gauge wire
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I kept coils of white 12awg & 3 wire so newer 'repairs' don't stand out.
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