Has anybody driven the 2016 Miata yet.....
 

I know they are not a Porsche but I am sure they will sell lots of them. It should turn out to be a headache free fun car. Small, manoeuvrable and not so attention getting as a Porsche.

They have just started arriving in Mazda showrooms here and are priced at $40k can or about $30K US. Will wait until spring to look at a used one. Way too much for a new Miata.

Guy

They look like spectacular cars, and are more attractive in person. My dad has a 2013 with the sport package that is a really fun car, and the new ones are even better. Pretty amazing that they were able to make it lighter than the carbon fiber Alfa 4C at a much lower price point, and without using any advanced materials.

Looks like a BMW.

I think they have done a great job on the redesign. It is actually shorter and narrower than the previous generation. I could see having one for a daily driver except for the lack of trunk space.

My first-generation Miata just topped 200,000 miles. Runs like new, with nothing more than basic maintenance,

One of the all-time great cars.

My first-generation Miata is holding at 193,000 sitting in my garage waiting for Hagerty to catch up.:D

That's a fair assessment but it's a great looking car nonetheless.

Why couldn't any other manufacturer make their version of the Miata? It seems like they have that segment of the market all to themselves.

Definitely a cool sporty for only a base price $25,000! What's interesting is looking back to the first gen MX5 in 1989 having a base of $14,000. This 2016 is a bargain.

Looks handsome in Meteor grey.

About the only thing wrong with it. That, the stupid looking nav screen and only being available in red and 6 shades of gray.

That's because they're made for the 50 Shades of Grey crowd.

Personally, I think it looks like a shrunken down Jaguar F-type, especially in the rear. I'm in OC and in my community, there's a gent who had a manu. plated one since early spring, so I've had a lot of eyeball time on these things. I love the lines of the car, but upon closer examination there are some weak points. My biggest gripe would be the tail light housing. While unlit it looks OK, but when the bulbs light up, they look woefully outdated. Another is severe orange peeling in the paint. Woof.

Still, at $25K, it isn't too bad of a proposition. I was considering waiting before I pulled the trigger on my Cayman.

Do they all have that NAV thing? I don't see it listed on the base Sport. I would have hoped its not on that model.

Dig the cloth interior. No sweat in the warm, top down season.

6 speed manual- check
no traction control gizmo - check
155 hp, 2300 lbs - check
chain driven DOHC - check
ally hood and rear deck lid - check
glass rear window for soft top - check

the usual good warranty

For a brand new fun toy, sure seems like a good package and bargain.

I'd still love to get my hands on the 2004 Mazdaspeed MX-5 (it was a turbo for that one year only - think of the tuneability of a Miata turbo...)

There was the Honda S2000, the Pontiac Solstice, and the Saturn Sky.

And none of them are still in production. Seems like Mazda got it right and just keeps going.

Turbo smurbo...

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Wasn't the Solstice and the Sky the same car with different bodies?

the 2016 Miata does look like a sweet ride.

the MSMs are actually pretty ****ty.

a normal 1.8L VVT car with a turbo kit is cheaper, and far far better.



the new miata though looks excellent. i love my NA, one of the best cars ever made. just one of those cars that is perfect as it sits. when it blows up, im just gonna buy another.

Apologies but none of the cars you listed were "Miata like".

Good looking, reliable and cheap open top sports car!

To answer the OP question, no I haven't, but it looks (visually and via the spec sheet) pretty darn spectacular. I've had 3 miata, '97, '01, and '04 factory turbo. I really loved them all, great cars.

They made 4000 in 2004 and something like 1528 in 2005, then the factory burned down. 2004 was available in Red or Gray, 2005 was available in Black, Red, Gray, and a funky coppery orangy color. There is a lot of tuning that can be done on the turbos, but probably not as much as with an N/A miata with a turbo kit.

I had a 2004 MSM in Velocity Red Mica paint with the leather seats and canvas top (the GT option) and really enjoyed it. Tobra has a Gray MSM.
Solstice and Sky were essentially Miata competitors. The S2000 was in a higher class.
That's a bit harsh. They weren't that bad. Actually, the MSM was better in many ways than a non-turbo. But I also really enjoyed my naturally aspirated.
Absolutely, bolting a turbo kit on an n/a miata is better in many ways than getting an MSM.

+1 Peter

And one can keep the '04 turbo version too.

Just a little ball of fun runt that hopefully all you'll ever need to do is change the oil and brake pads. Its the 60's British budget roadster but the Japanese factored quality where it counts.

I like the new one too, very tempting. What else is similar, mustang, brz? I dont care about the convertible, just looking reliable car that I want to drive. I have a truck for the snow and have been through a few e36's. On paper the brz and miata are pretty similar, minus the roof of course.

The base car does have a small screen on the dash. Does not have stupid sirius antenna and a bunch of other crap, but does not have limited slip either. The way they option them and the colors they chose for them is rather unfortunate.

I have not driven an ND(new model) yet, but it is the best of the first three generations in stock form, quicker and better handling. Redline is too low, the gearing is too short, the wheels are too big, but it is the best overall package. Only way I was going to have a street legal turbo Miata was to get one, it is my current daily driver. The new one looks better in person than in a picture, but here is a picture anyway. Guy on the right is Dave Coleman, trying to figure out how to open the fuel filler door.
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Lotus Elise or Exige.

Miata and BRZ are cool but will you ever stare at it and say "it's so cool that that's in my garage"? No. Are they easier to live with? Yes.

I just went thru this argument and bought an Elise.

They sell well because of their pricing. Plus, the handling is razor sharp. You just need to take out Cheap and you have the S2000. Still, I know the S2000 can out turn the new mx5, but that's not what this is about. BTW, I enjoyed my NA a lot

I do. I preferred my NA Miata in every way to my Elise. That's why it is still in my garage, while the Elise was replaced by an E46 M3.

I saw my first one last weekend in that superb metallic red. Only this one didnt look so good ,as some imbecile had parked in someone else's front yard via a lightpole and without bothering to disassemble the front brick wall before rather rudely knocking it down completely instead.This, on a freeway type road with a posted 40mph speed limit. Another case of texting whilst driving I'm guessing. The police were interviewing the driver as I went by, just to complete his ruined day.

You mean like basically every other car?

Says the guy that bought a Fiat 500.

If warranty is that big of a differentiator, you might want to rethink the reliability of your choices.

Different strokes I guess... :D

LOL. This is a forum for car guys. Consumer Reports has its own forum I'm sure... :D:rolleyes:

This is way more reliable than consumer reports.

I probably would have gotten an NSX if I could have found one I liked for sale, preferred the Miata to the Honda, shocked the heck out of me.

I am hopeful that they will come out with another Miata R package sort of thing, maybe in a nice yellow.

Did you mean to say the S2000? The MX5 isn't really in the same league as the NSX

The new MX5 is on my "next toy" short list.....along with a used S2000 .....along with maybe a Boxster ..if I can figure out what year they round filed the M97 motor.

Yeah its not a porsche, if it was they would have to charge you 40k extra for the deleted wieght.

I haven't driven the new one, but I think it looks fantastic. I think the miata must be the most important sports car ever made. The only problem with buying a new one is older ones are cheap, dead nuts reliable, and you dont have to feel guilty about modding the crap out of a brand new car.

The new miata is actually a bit quicker than the BRZ in a straight line, its the end of an era where the miata is the slowest pure sports car sold.

That said the brz looks great, and has +2 seats if you have small (very) children

If you mean M96->M97 on the 987, good luck with that... Do you have the court papers to peruse ? Even with those it's not a sure thing (sometimes in 05)... Not sure even porsche knows. If you mean M97->9A1 then 2009 model year.

I share your indecision. They are all good cars. A used Miata is a good bet but feels small compared to a Boxster or Cayman. I could live with any of those. Depends on how rich or poor I feel at decision time...

I wonder about the suspension renewal or anything that needs to be done once over 100k miles? It has to be a lot cheaper to fix and replace than a P car. Yes you are right it is the most important sports car ever made especially for the masses. :)

For grins, base number comparison's to a 2016 BMW Z4 roadster:
BASE MSRP is double, +90 hp and 800 lbs. weight

2016 Z4 roadster
2.0L four
240hp @ 5k / 260 ft.lbs @ 1,450
3263 lbs.

Base MSRP $49,250

Warr. 4 yr. / 50k