Makes sense to me. The NRA lobby probably has an objection to every point. Personally, I think #5 is problematic. Individual states still have rights in other areas, why not this one?

We can only address this issue at the national level through a consistent approach. Any differences create a situation where the weakest approach becomes the standard for all.

What really needs to happen with the mass shooting is we need to pass laws that make it illegal to shoot or kill people. Just a simple change in the law to make it illegal to commit murder will stop it all. If only we had some laws against killing people.

They are one and the same. I use the broad "NRA" moniker for those of you whose only knowledge of the organization is through the mass media. None of you have ever heard of the ILA. I will put a finer point on it with more knowledgeable audiences, but try not to with you folks. Even with this new knowledge, would you ever bother to seek out information from the ILA? I doubt it. It's just easier to hold onto ignorant positions like this:

I think you meant #4...

The NRA was actually instrumental in setting up the framework for NICS, the National Instant Check System through which today's background checks are carried out. We do not object to background checks, but we do object to waiting periods. They are not one and the same. What sense does it make to hold a gun buyer to a waiting period (otherwise known as a "cooling off" period) if they already own several guns? Why make them wait when the background check database is up to date, and the check can be performed instantly?

The NRA (excuse me, ILA...) has been very vocal about including mental health histories in background checks. It's actually been liberals (sympathetic to the many popular liberal afflictions, like HIV) that have worked the hardest to block the inclusion of this information through the passage of HIPAA.

As far as a universal, "federal" CCW, why not? Your drivers' license is recognized in every state. Your marriage license is recognized in every state, and liberals have fought tooth and nail for "marriage equality", one factor of which is reciprocity with states that provide marriage licenses to gays to states that do not. Why the hypocrisy?

you know, if you had to avoid mood drugs to be able to own a gun I think it might be a good thing. heck waaaaaay too many people are walking around in medicated states these days. would be a good thing if more people avoided the quick fix and lived their lives experiencing all that is life.

Unfortunately, stereotyping or asserting a blanket assessment of everyone taking psych drugs is just as bad as stereotyping or asserting a blanket assessment of everyone who owns a gun.

Even though, as mentioned earlier, I'm no fan of psych drugs and personally, (selfishly) think they are much more responsible than the gun.

That and our culture's fascination with the idea that everyone deserves to be happy "just because".

And now Brady is calling for the sheriff to resign? They have no authority of course but their delusion is psychotic! Luckily the sheriff has broad support.
Troy

This article makes some excellent points. The 300,000+ figure of gun deaths over the last 10 years is useless, because it includes accidents and suicides. If 2011 is representative, fully 2/3 of that # is due to suicide.

But back that # down to 1/3, or about 100,000, and terrorism still only accounts for only 3% of deaths. I don't know the actual figures, but I'll bet gov't spending on anti-terrorism measures is many, many times that spent on fixing the issues that lead to murders, gun-related or otherwise. That, IMO, is a colossal failure.

You can't have a pilot's license when under prescription for many drugs. Why? Because you could kill someone. I don't see why guns are any different. I'm very pro-second amendment but don't see the wisdom in selling to people with tangible reasons for concern.

Btw, I totally agree with your societal opinions. Everybody is a winner....but they aren't. Everybody is equal.....but they aren't. Everybody DESERVES happiness/stuff/money/love/success.....but they don't. There's a huge disconnect between many of the messages that our PC society conveys and the true reality of life, particularly when it comes to the last several generations of kids.

Pilot thing is interesting.

How do you deal with a guy with a big collection who is diagnosed one day?

A pilots licence is a Privilege, gun ownership is a Right. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444090536.jpg

Guns aren't the only thing used in mass killing.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444090564.jpg


And it isn't new:eek:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444090803.jpg

This Officer gets ithttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444090863.jpg
And this is so true..http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444090935.jpg
And remember who was against Drug Testing for Welfare, this overlaps.
CCW saves lives. The right person died in this video.
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This says it best about GC.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1444091734.jpg

+1 You are wise beyond your years.

For me........I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.:D

People who own Turbos are communists.

Ronnie = No essence.

Check Peter Sellers at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

More info. The killer had bought many guns, and so had his mother, who was something of a gun nut herself. Multiple ARs and AKs, pistols, etc.

He had been admitted to a psych hospital, was intermittently on psych meds, sometimes wouldn't take them, the mother knew all of this - they lived together - and she was a nurse and well informed on mental illness issues.

She seems to have been somewhat in denial, told people her son was doing great, in college, etc. In reality he was a loner who was apparently seldom at school and was a gun nut.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/us/mother-of-oregon-gunman-wrote-of-keeping-firearms.html?_r=0&referer=http://news.google.com/news/m/more?ncl=d7WxxCg7QajH4BMn_dpJagEzd2TiM&authuser=0& ned=us&topic=n

Explains everything, ties it all together.

Yes, yes it does.

God bless Stanley Kubrick. (RIP)

Bingo.