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67R69S 10-07-2015 04:46 PM

Grady's car on The Samba
 
Spotted this today. RIP Grady.

TheSamba.com :: VW Classifieds - 1968 911 Eggplant/Black 1 Owner Original

LWJ 10-07-2015 08:48 PM

Grady was a pretty amazing guy. I hope the person who buys that understands they have big shoes to fill.

Ferraripete 10-07-2015 09:10 PM

seriously missed here. r.i.p.

speeder 10-07-2015 10:46 PM

He was a fantastic guy and a great enthusiast/mechanic who really knew the cars but I'm surprised that he let his old 911 get so run-down. He was in good health and vitality until recent years, if not mistaken.

The price is also shocking for a very tawdry '68 911T, that would have been a $5k car not so long ago. :cool:

porsche4life 10-07-2015 11:02 PM

I think they are forgetting that Grady was only internet famous!

Sure do miss him!

sc_rufctr 10-08-2015 12:02 AM

Must have been one he was storing... "last registered in 1980 in Colorado "

He was a good guy who always jumped in & tried to help. RIP Grady.

304065 10-08-2015 03:59 AM

RIP Grady. . . here's to better, faster days for both of you.

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billybek 10-08-2015 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 8827212)

Jeeze, he is just about driving the tires off that car!
Hope a Pelican buys it and does a documented restoration thread like the one on Warren's car.

There are very few posters on the technical forum that I would check every one of their responses to various threads that I saw. Grady was one of them.

jrj3rd 10-08-2015 04:21 AM

somebody is smoking something in Colorado :rolleyes:

GH85Carrera 10-08-2015 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybek (Post 8827228)
Jeeze, he is just about driving the tires off that car!
Hope a Pelican buys it and does a documented restoration thread like the one on Warren's car.

There are very few posters on the technical forum that I would check every one of their responses to various threads that I saw. Grady was one of them.

This. I miss him as well.

He and Bruce Anderson were such great resources of information. I miss them both.

CJFusco 10-08-2015 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrj3rd (Post 8827236)
somebody is smoking something in Colorado :rolleyes:

Okay... I like early 911s as much as the next guy, and I know that the market is going nutty,but who in their right mind would pay nearly 100K for a comparatively not-really-all-that-rare 911 that clearly needs a little bit of work? I mean, sure -- it is a desirable car... but 99K?!

speeder 10-08-2015 09:50 AM

That wheel-lift photo is a classic, I guess it was taken a looong time ago based on the condition of the car and its disuse since 1980(?)

Someone who knew him in the gravity world can correct me but wasn't he pretty big guy, like really tall and over 200 lbs.? That's a lot of centrifugal force in that photo. :)

intakexhaust 10-08-2015 09:55 AM

Aside sentiments, I just don't get the value of it especially the condition of it. That car looks like a mess.

porsche4life 10-08-2015 09:59 AM

Thats how I feel. Grady was a cool guy, but I don't place a premium on the car just because it was his. It looks like a nice dry starting point for a project, but thats it...

speeder 10-08-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 8827741)
Aside sentiments, I just don't get the value of it especially the condition of it. That car looks like a mess.

It needs a complete resto, bumper-to-bumper. That is very expensive these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8827746)
Thats how I feel. Grady was a cool guy, but I don't place a premium on the car just because it was his. It looks like a nice dry starting point for a project, but thats it...

This is not exactly correct. It would have value being owned by him because the mechanicals are most likely fantastic. Factory level service throughout. Contrast that with most project early 911s around these days which have been sodomised by some idiot with third-world mechanical skills.

This of course in no way justifies the asking price but there is value there.

porsche4life 10-08-2015 10:23 AM

Dennis I'd agree if he had been working on and driving the car. But that things been sitting in a barn longer than I've been alive. I don't care who owned it, not being touched is not being touched and everything will need to be done.

speeder 10-08-2015 10:41 AM

Doesn't matter. It hasn't been touched by bad hands. That can be irreversible. I'm sure that it needs to be resealed but it's going to be a good engine and trans, etc.

Shaun @ Tru6 10-08-2015 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybek (Post 8827228)
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There are very few posters on the technical forum that I would check every one of their responses to various threads that I saw. Grady was one of them.

Agreed.

On the car, it's worth whatever someone will pay. It certainly commands a large premium for being all original and correct. I've parted out and cut up 6 longhoods and 8 impact bumper cars. Just reaching parts car status, you know these cars were abused. But most here on the boards have no idea how badly treated these cars can be. Forget Home Depot hardware being used, some cars I've parted the "junk drawer" was raided or someone stole a screw from the toaster for this and that to bind the car together.

One of the few good things about the bubble is idiots can't own these cars anymore.

Net-net, this is an easy restoration for any qualified 911 shop and that has real monetary value.

sammyg2 10-08-2015 11:21 AM

That's a $15k car.
But if they can find someone with more money than brains, more power to them.

tcar 10-08-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8827735)

Someone who knew him in the gravity world can correct me but wasn't he pretty big guy, like really tall and over 200 lbs.? That's a lot of centrifugal force in that photo. :)

No, he was tall, but was very, very thin in his racing days. Like he was too busy to eat.

Was heavier later... recently. We saw him moderately often here until he became ill.

SilberUrS6 10-08-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8827846)
That's a $15k car.
But if they can find someone with more money than brains, more power to them.

LOL, nonsense.

It's neither a $15k car, nor a $99k car. But if someone buys it at that price, then it really is a $99k car.

I'd call it $35k, but only because you know it'll be in reasonable mechanical shape.

porsche4life 10-08-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 8827861)

I'd call it $35k, but only because you know it'll be in reasonable mechanical shape.

This is a big assumption... He parked this car 35 years ago for some reason? Its partially disassembled. Unless someone who knew him well told the whole story, its an unknown.


Grady was one of the greatest aircooled wrenches out there, but I know plenty of mechanics that get halfway through their own projects and then let them sit for whatever reason(usually to make time and space for paying work). Assuming this car is in great shape just because it was his is a big assumption. Its been sitting for 35 years....

rattlsnak 10-08-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8827846)
That's a $15k car.
But if they can find someone with more money than brains, more power to them.

Agreed.

Racerbvd 10-08-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 8827212)
RIP Grady. . . here's to better, faster days for both of you.

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So the guy from Beer Fest is selling the car??

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javadog 10-08-2015 02:24 PM

The ad is a little optimistic on the condition. That's not a number 3 car.

Still, it's worth a lot more than $15k. I know it won't be stock and there's a decent chance that some of the modifications might be interesting. If it has been off the road since 1980, that meant it only had twelve years of use. If it was stored out of the weather, it could be a pretty solid car.

Grady was a well known in the Porsche world, long before Pelican. You'd be surprised how many people knew him.

JR

emcon5 10-08-2015 02:58 PM

last registered in 1980 ≠ last driven in 1980, particularly for a track car.

speeder 10-09-2015 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8827846)
That's a $15k car.
But if they can find someone with more money than brains, more power to them.

And that's just ignorance of what's happened to the early 911 market in the last 5 years or so. It was a $15k car 7 or 8 years ago.

Anyhow, it's on eBay now which should end this discussion:


Porsche 911 911 L s E | eBay

Laneco 10-09-2015 04:12 AM

As someone who has absolutely been guilty of senseless acts of restoration (on far less worthy projects than an old 911), I wish I had the $$ to buy it and restore it.

It would be so damned cool to have Grady's old car...

angela

javadog 10-09-2015 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by emcon5 (Post 8828155)
last registered in 1980 ≠ last driven in 1980, particularly for a track car.

True, but it's impossible to say how much track use it got. My take on it was that he did occasional track outings at events like the Porsche Parades. I don't think it was ever a serious track car.

Note the roof rack. Probably wasn't put back on the car just for the photos, as none of the other parts were, so it might have been on the car from its last use. Doubtful it was on a track.

Anyway, it's not a $15k car, as you shall soon see.

JR

ficke 10-09-2015 05:45 AM

In this modern era with so much information at your finger tips, it amazes me people still can have such out dated ideas,
15k?, really ?? wow, just wow.

patz 10-09-2015 06:01 AM

Sammy was trolling. Get over it.

ficke 10-09-2015 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 8828043)
Agreed.

Another troll, got me, I guess?

intakexhaust 10-09-2015 07:46 AM

Advertised as a one owner car? Regardless of owners.... they left it in a nasty mess.

Just had to edit... quotes from the fleabay listing - LMAO:

__________________________________________________

Beautiful car that has no rust and a one owner Colorado car. Untouched from new

On Oct-08-15 at 13:40:33 PDT, seller added the following information:

6808 is Burgundy Red. Will post the serial 3'S for car and engine (motor) soon.

Matching #'s Car

Really no rust?
Rust is surface only!

This is a one owner 911. Google the owner, Grady Clay. I have near 100 pictures of the car from new. It has all documents from new that you get with car. The books in the glove-box. He cared his 911 in a manner a gentleman race car driver would.

Do you have found signs of bondo filler, weldings or accidents?
Minor dents and "wear and tear", I would call it patina and it is aesthetically appealing. Which is perfect for a Collector.


You can turn the engine by Hand?
The motor is fine. It was unused and the Grady decided to rebuild the carbs. He pulled them and where found just as the picture shows them.

304065 10-09-2015 07:58 AM

You guys aren't following the SWB market closely, that car will see the ask, and when restored, will be double the ask. Plus it's Grady's, it's as unique as he was.

intakexhaust 10-09-2015 08:07 AM

^^car is still in a POS condition. Description by seller is laughable. And who cares if it was Grady's? He left this one in a state of a mess. How many 911 turbo's would you like of Michael Jordan's or King Tut's? LOL

javadog 10-09-2015 08:51 AM

I doubt King Tut ever had a turbo, so I'd pass on one of those. Would have to be a scam... A Michael Jordan car might be interesting. He's well known now and his status ought to grow in the coming years. Look what Steve McQueen's ownership did to the value of his turbo. Who do you figure is more well known, worldwide, McQueen or Jordan? That one will get decided in twenty years.

Any 911 can be restored. A one owner car, that is well documented (as I figure Grady's car will prove to be) and owned by someone like Grady... it will be worth a surprising amount some day soon.

JR

speeder 10-09-2015 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 8828839)
You guys aren't following the SWB market closely, that car will see the ask, and when restored, will be double the ask. Plus it's Grady's, it's as unique as he was.

This guy knows what he's talking about. ^^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 8828856)
^^car is still in a POS condition. Description by seller is laughable. And who cares if it was Grady's? He left this one in a state of a mess. How many 911 turbo's would you like of Michael Jordan's or King Tut's? LOL

This guy doesn't. ^^^ :rolleyes:

cairns 10-09-2015 09:02 AM

Proof that the early 911 market is way of of whack. You could have that or a 69 XKE in perfect condition with only 22K for not much over $100K.

I love Porsche's but a 68 in poor condition for anywhere near a $100K is flat insane. How many of you are putting your $ where your mouths are and actually bidding anywhere near that for it?

I'd call it 35K too- at the absolute most.

javadog 10-09-2015 09:05 AM

I have a friend that owns a restored XKE convertible, along with a slew of older 911s and other Porsches. The jag is nice to look at but not so great to drive. Tends to be a lot of trouble, unlike the 911s. Careful what you ask for.

If this was a ratty old Ferrari, it might be worth several hundred grand in that condition. Supply and demand, everyone is insane, lots of explanations. I don't get too worked up over it.

JR


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